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Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Post by nitwit005 »

throwaway48476 wrote: post #341
Trasmatta wrote: post #3

> Conversations with the characters quickly went sideways when some users peppered them with questions including who created and developed the AI. Liv, for instance, said that her creator team included zero Black people and was predominantly white and male. It was a “pretty glaring omission given my identity”, the bot wrote in response to a question from the Washington Post columnist Karen Attiah. This is probably tr…

I hate the journalists pretending that ML is regurgitating facts instead of just random tokens. The ML model doesn't know who programmed it and can't know because that wasn't in the training data.

They don't appear to have done so. They just shared what they asked it, and screenshots of the conversation: https://bsky.app/profile/karenattiah.bsky.social/post/3letty...

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Post by fallingknife »

jopsen wrote: post #408
fallingknife wrote: post #391

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Insured against what? (The bank is already liable if the account is breached). These scam transfers are intentional acts authorized by the account holders. A company can't be held liable for the stupidity of its customers.

Banks should be liable, there is often insufficient ways to validate who you're transferring money to. Sometimes the bank interface will tell you name and address, after you type in numbers, but who validates this? My bank (in Denmark) sometimes sends me emails from an domain that isn't their primary domain. The bank uses a login system that is provided by the state. In theory it's a good idea, but you sign-in on dom…

I agree, and in the US banks are already liable if an unauthorized person gains access to your funds. But what I'm saying is that most of the scams that OP is talking about just aren't done that way. It's just a scammer that tricks them into sending money.

It's just old fashioned con man stuff but over email or phone. And of you're dumb enough to believe that the only way the IRS (US tax agency) is willing to accept payment is by Visa gift card (and yes this is actually a common scam here) it's just not your bank's problem.

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Post by herewulf »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #394
thephyber wrote: post #362

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The political boogeyman was that government bureaucrats would be the members of “death panels” if we went full socialized healthcare industry, but in practice we already have death panels in health insurance claims adjusters and (less maliciously) doctors on transplant review boards.

My mother beat cancer. Insurance paid for follow up testing every 2 years. I tried to convince her to pay out of pocket and do it every year but she said 'they know best'. My mom did not beat cancer the second time when it came back and too much time elapsed between screenings. I know 'pro status quo' people will say online anecdotes are all lies and not relevant, but there are a heck of a lot of people with a lot of…

I'm sorry for your loss. I'm also sorry it now has to serve as a warning for others. Thank you for sharing.

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Post by rscho »

crmd wrote: post #290
tomalaci wrote: post #186

You know what AI profiles I want more of? Clueless grandma/grandpa that accepts scammer calls and waste their time. Such as UK's O2 Daisy: https://news.virginmediao2.co.uk/o2-unveils-daisy-the-ai-gra...

There is another real-world version of this in the US healthcare system, where doctor offices are using domain-specific LLMs to craft multi-page medical approval requests for procedures that cover every known loophole insurer’s use to deny, which are then being reviewed by ML-powered algorithms at the insurance company looking for any way to deny and delay the claim approval. In other words we have a bona fide AI arm…

Well, docs have seen this coming from miles away. I don't think anyone having substantial experience in clinical medicine is surprised by those developments, unfortunately. But it doesn't stop here. Insurance companies will be (are) building models to overcome legal barriers. Imagine: you're 20 and healthy, but located somewhere suggesting a higher risk of developing some chronic disease in the future ? Then no insurance covering this particular condition, for you specifically. A real-world application of the 'fuck you in particular' meme. This of course extends to all sorts of sensitive matters, such as your ethnicity, sexual preferences, etc.

Now this is a really scary application of AI, but you won't hear those wanting AI regulation such as Musk complain about that, right?

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Post by dataviz1000 »

ec109685 wrote: post #415
dataviz1000 wrote: post #407

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Interesting. My next door neighbor ten years ago was a lawyer a couple years out of law school. He discovered that he could pour through hundreds of medical charts a day and find cases where the doctor under billed the insurance company. He would then sue the insurance company, settle, and split the profits with the doctor. More or less he was mining the charts. He would sometimes pull up next door with a half dozen…

Are you sure it was illegal? HIPPA carves out this exception for using your health records: “To pay doctors and hospitals for your health care and to help run their businesses”

With HIPAA you have to track and store the information every person who touches or reads the medical chart. The issue was more to do with random people reading medical charts.

It isn't difficult to bring the process into compliance. I offered to make an app which would have been easy because there was a predefined workflow that can be diagrammed on a sequence chart in about 10 steps. There were a couple interactions between the lawyer and the doctor. Then a step where the insurance company is notified. Then a lawsuit filed if not paid. At one point, I was researching how to store data in HIPAA compliance in the cloud. It was about 2 years later when AWS provided HIPAA compliant EC2 instances. I offered to build the app for $10,000. Having random people pour over private medical charts and undocumented and haphazard communication between the lawyers, insurance company, and doctors through email and text messages was a mess.

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Post by nitwit005 »

Macha wrote: post #187
cdcox wrote: post #167

This was probably an okay idea terribly implemented. GenAI creators on social media kind of sense. Neurosama, an AI streamer, is massively popular. Silllytavern which lets people make and chat with characters or tell stories with LLMs feeds Openrouter 20 million messages a day, which is a fraction of it's totally usage. Anecdotally I've have non tech friends learn how to install Git and work an API to get this one wo…

> Neurosama, an AI streamer, is massively popular. I think some level of Neuro's popularity is due to the Vedal + Neuro double act though, and some of the scripted/prepared replies.

Yes, it's a success, but not a scalable one.

There probably aren't a lot of decent streamers who are also AI developers around.

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Post by hombre_fatal »

jdlyga wrote: post #414

Obviously this was a bad idea implemented poorly. They never thought about the "why" for any of this. There's real value in fictional chatbots (Character AI) though. With Character AI, you can role play and have outlandish conversations that you might never have with a real person. There's even apps like SocialAI where every profile is AI so you can experience going viral and social media stardom without sacrificing…

A lot of the blow back acts like Character.ai and similar setups aren’t wildly popular.

This clearly was Meta’s attempt to come up with a more professional, sanitary version of it that might have appeal to people who aren’t techy enough to download C.ai and flip through cringe anime chat bots. And they went too far probably due to corporate design by committee.

But the core idea is valid.

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Post by pockmarked19 »

add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #287
asveikau wrote: post #207

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I would argue that there is not an excess of the former. A lot of the so-called techies don't know tech either.

That's fair. I suppose it's more that there's a worship of knowledge outside the context of wisdom.

There are wise people here, they are just lurkers though (wisely).

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Post by hattmall »

nox101 wrote: post #383
jiggawatts wrote: post #322

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It’s so bizarre to me that this uniquely US phenomenon of for-profit-middlemen inserted into the healthcare system has resulted in an adverserial relationship between the sick person and the “healthcare provider”. I put that air quotes because insurance companies don’t actually provide health care. They provide insurance. That’s a financial product, not a medical one.

in Japan where the government sets the prices, dentists do things over 3 visits that dentists in other places would do in 1 because then they can bill the government set price 3 times instead of one

I'm sure you could offer the Japanese dentist 10% of what the procedure would cost in the US and they would do it in one trip.

It cost about 25% of US prices to fly to Costa Rica, stay at a resort, and get the procedure done in a top notch facility. And that's if you just need 1 root canal and crown. If you need even more done the savings move closer to 90%.

And that is a really nice places. You could drive to Mexico and get it done at a decent place for comparatively nothing.

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Post by joe_the_user »

cdcox wrote: post #167

This was probably an okay idea terribly implemented. GenAI creators on social media kind of sense. Neurosama, an AI streamer, is massively popular. Silllytavern which lets people make and chat with characters or tell stories with LLMs feeds Openrouter 20 million messages a day, which is a fraction of it's totally usage. Anecdotally I've have non tech friends learn how to install Git and work an API to get this one wo…

This was probably an okay idea terribly implemented.

No, I'd vote terrible idea terribly implemented so good (that it failed).

The argument for GenAI chatbots in culture has to be more than "people like it".

The worst possible GenAI is one that manages to be "better" than the standard sterile, moronic homogenized celebrity that everyone already likes. And sure, like any computer program, a GenAI can be randomly "interesting" but this kind of thing is quite shallow imo.

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