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Post by egypturnash »

jiggawatts wrote: post #322
crmd wrote: post #290

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There is another real-world version of this in the US healthcare system, where doctor offices are using domain-specific LLMs to craft multi-page medical approval requests for procedures that cover every known loophole insurer’s use to deny, which are then being reviewed by ML-powered algorithms at the insurance company looking for any way to deny and delay the claim approval. In other words we have a bona fide AI arm…

It’s so bizarre to me that this uniquely US phenomenon of for-profit-middlemen inserted into the healthcare system has resulted in an adverserial relationship between the sick person and the “healthcare provider”. I put that air quotes because insurance companies don’t actually provide health care. They provide insurance. That’s a financial product, not a medical one.

Death panels.

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Post by beezlebroxxxxxx »

jiggawatts wrote: post #322
crmd wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is another real-world version of this in the US healthcare system, where doctor offices are using domain-specific LLMs to craft multi-page medical approval requests for procedures that cover every known loophole insurer’s use to deny, which are then being reviewed by ML-powered algorithms at the insurance company looking for any way to deny and delay the claim approval. In other words we have a bona fide AI arm…

It’s so bizarre to me that this uniquely US phenomenon of for-profit-middlemen inserted into the healthcare system has resulted in an adverserial relationship between the sick person and the “healthcare provider”. I put that air quotes because insurance companies don’t actually provide health care. They provide insurance. That’s a financial product, not a medical one.

> That’s a financial product, not a medical one.

It often goes unsaid, but America, on a cultural and political level, is really ideologically fixated on a distinction between working and non-working individuals, and, in a far deeper sense, whether an individual "deserves" healthcare or not. This makes access to healthcare intricately connected to class, wealth, and income, in America. That's why access to healthcare is seen as a product in and of itself. You can either afford it ("you've earned it"), or you go into debt for it ("you have to earn it"), or you simply have no expectation of ever paying for it ("you cheated the system").

The entire conversation is often dominated by these ideas in a way that often makes talking about healthcare with Americans baffling to people that come from many single-payer or universal systems.

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Post by DonHopkins »

lfmunoz4 wrote: post #307
crmd wrote: post #290

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There is another real-world version of this in the US healthcare system, where doctor offices are using domain-specific LLMs to craft multi-page medical approval requests for procedures that cover every known loophole insurer’s use to deny, which are then being reviewed by ML-powered algorithms at the insurance company looking for any way to deny and delay the claim approval. In other words we have a bona fide AI arm…

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Post by timeon »

barbazoo wrote: post #308
NBJack wrote: post #151

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Ironically, this would lead to dramatically unhealthy social interactions and be ripe for abuse. You are literally creating a bubble of interactions with technologically enforced rose-colored glasses. Get the right person in charge of the experience, and don't be surprised if it becomes a modern take on Orwell's 1984.

In what way would it become a modern take on 1984? In terms of surveillance? Afaik the telescreens were non-interactive, right?

Yeah this one is closer Brave New World.

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Post by 93po »

chis wrote: post #324
autoconfig wrote: post #309

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That is not at all how things work at Meta. The impact of the things you deliver as an engineer has a direct effect on your performance review. For better or for worse, that also means that engineers have a ton of leverage on deciding what to work on. It's highly unlikely that the engineers working on this were laughing at it while doing so. Don't assume that you can simply pattern match because you've been at anothe…

How do you think it happened, then? Having also worked there the OP’s story makes total sense to me lol. If you’re on a team with the charter to “make AI profiles in IG work” then you’re just inevitably going to turn off your better judgement and make some cringy garbage.

I suspect they wanted to be able to say "worked on AI at Facebook" on their resume and this was their way of doing it

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Post by timeon »

theptip wrote: post #192
lm28469 wrote: post #155

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People should try to socialize in real life. The web is 90% rage baits, trolls, people completely brain washed by fringe conspiracy theories and politics IRL these 90% turn into 10%, if you really care about socializing you'll have more meaningful interactions with the grandma living next door than with the queer black queen zuckerbot ™ It's like if people asked supermarkets to hide plastic apples amongst the real on…

What if socializing IRL is something you can practice with pro-social bots? Or, what if depressed people find the pressure of consequences too stressful to “just go outside and make friends”, and so the realistic options are chatbot or not enough socialization? There are obvious nuanced issues and risks here but to distill it down to a one liner like “try to socialize IRL” is myopic.

People need to practice with bots and are depressed because they are lacking real social interactions. They went too far to digital rabbit-hole. Now is time to log off.

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Post by oceansweep »

BoorishBears wrote: post #299
oceansweep wrote: post #234

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As someone who's built something like it in their free time as a hobby project ( https://github.com/rmusser01/tldw ), could I ask what would make it a professional product vs something an intern came up with? Looking for insights I could possibly apply/learn from to implement in my own project. One of my goals with my project I ended up taking on was to match/exceed NotebookLMs feature set, to ensure that an open sou…

I'm going to challenge you to put that first screenshot into ChatGPT/Claude and ask them why it looks like something an intern came up with vs a professional product. I'm not saying that as a slight or an insult, but right now the screenshot looks like a Gradio space someone would use to prove out the underlying tech of a professional product, not a professional product (unless you literally mean professionals are yo…

I don't think you understand the context, the person I was replying to was making that comment about NotebookLM. I'm fully well aware of how my UI looks, the whole reason I'm using Gradio for right now is that it is a single person project that isn't a product for sale. Not quite an intern, but same amount of funding. The current UI is a placeholder, because the idea is to migrate to an API first design so users can have whatever kind of UI they'd like.

SoundStorm/Podcast creation is one of the big draws, but I would question as to whether its one of its most-used features, considering hallucinations and shallowness.

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Post by throwaway48476 »

seizethecheese wrote: post #320
tomalaci wrote: post #186

You know what AI profiles I want more of? Clueless grandma/grandpa that accepts scammer calls and waste their time. Such as UK's O2 Daisy: https://news.virginmediao2.co.uk/o2-unveils-daisy-the-ai-gra...

My father has fallen for one fraud after another these last few years. It’s disgusting. Anything in the direction of solving this would be doing the lord’s work.

The solution is for all foreign wire transfers to be insured and reversible which would drive up the cost of doing business with countries home to scammers.

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Post by 0_____0 »

z3c0 wrote: post #314
crmd wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is another real-world version of this in the US healthcare system, where doctor offices are using domain-specific LLMs to craft multi-page medical approval requests for procedures that cover every known loophole insurer’s use to deny, which are then being reviewed by ML-powered algorithms at the insurance company looking for any way to deny and delay the claim approval. In other words we have a bona fide AI arm…

It will take me some time to dig up with all the noise around AI, but this reminds me of a paper published around 2018 or so that explored the possibility of two such AI forming an accidental trust by optimizing around each other. For example, if the denying AI used frequency of denied claims as a heuristic for success, and the AI drafting claims used the claim amount for the same, then the two bots may unknowingly s…

I feel that this sort of autonomous agent co-optimization may happen more often over time as humans step farther away from the loop, and lead to some pretty weird outcomes with nobody around to go "wait what the f---- are we doing?"

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Post by xdfgh1112 »

beezlebroxxxxxx wrote: post #332
jiggawatts wrote: post #322

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s so bizarre to me that this uniquely US phenomenon of for-profit-middlemen inserted into the healthcare system has resulted in an adverserial relationship between the sick person and the “healthcare provider”. I put that air quotes because insurance companies don’t actually provide health care. They provide insurance. That’s a financial product, not a medical one.

> That’s a financial product, not a medical one. It often goes unsaid, but America, on a cultural and political level, is really ideologically fixated on a distinction between working and non-working individuals, and, in a far deeper sense, whether an individual "deserves" healthcare or not. This makes access to healthcare intricately connected to class, wealth, and income, in America. That's why access to healthcare…

I get this feeling a lot. For example the UK typically has unlimited paid sick days for salaried jobs, while I have heard of US employees pooling together and "donating" sick days to someone. The UK has a ton of benefits for the sick, unemployed, single mothers, carers etc. in the US I am sure those exist but I get the sense that charity is supposed to play more of a role.
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