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Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Post by yakshaving_jgt »

AdrianB1 wrote: post #113
xracy wrote: post #79

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People will discriminate against people of color because they are visually people of color. Whether or not they 'announce it'. It's utter BS to suggest that the only reason people discriminate against black people is because they 'identify as black'. Like, if all the black people would just stop identifying as 'black' racism would be solved? Maybe I'm misreading your comment, but all of the responses to this suggest…

I believe that many people in US are just pyromaniac firefighters that start fired to play hero extinguishing it. Racism is just one of the fires. In my country (Eastern Europe) racism is approximately non-existent, but nobody was putting gas on fire for decades or more. I know a black guy that is quite famous around here, do you know what he never said? "I am a proud black person". He is a great person and people lo…

Which part of Eastern Europe? I’ve lived in various parts of what might be considered Eastern Europe for most of my life, and while there isn’t a hyper-focus on race like in the US, I know that racism still exists. I still see it first hand.

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ryandrake wrote: post #176
brookst wrote: post #143

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I wish I agreed. But I have seen many products launched where only true believers who internalized the limitations were involved in testing. Yes, a good org with self-critical people and an independent red team and execs who cared about quality would not have made this blunder. Getting that org stuff right sounds easy but is nigh impossible if it doesn’t align to the company culture.

Critics and naysayers tend to leave teams where they don't believe in the product, and eventually teams are left with only true believers. Their entire purpose is to ship Project X, and if they were to admit Project X is a blunder, then they are admitting that their purpose is a blunder. Few teams at few companies are willing to do that.

Exactly. That’s why formal and independent compliance / security / red team signoffs are so important. A good product team wants those checks and balances.

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Post by AlexandrB »

asdev wrote: post #215

I hope the stock gets destroyed next earnings when people realize they've been spending all this money on AI all to not ship a single meaningful feature nor derive any revenue leveraging it. They did the exact same thing with the whole "Metaverse" thing

The metaverse craze was hilarious. I heard of a large retailer that paid ~$0.5 million to hold their annual all-hands in a metaverse "venue". The whole thing collapsed under the weight of a few hundred attendees and they had to revert to a zoom call.

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Post by asdff »

ryandrake wrote: post #191
noisy_boy wrote: post #174

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Never understood this critique. What is the "correct" percentage of Apple ads that should have "non-majority/mixed race people"? You seem to know, so what's the number? Release an ad with white people in it, and one group complains "Racist! Ignoring minorities!" Release an ad with black people in it, and another group complains "Pandering!" There's no winning this battle.

How about an apple ad with some latino people? That is increasingly the majority demographic in many metro regions these days but its not really reflected in mainstream media beyond the scant amount of token representation there’s been for decades.

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theptip wrote: post #192
lm28469 wrote: post #155

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People should try to socialize in real life. The web is 90% rage baits, trolls, people completely brain washed by fringe conspiracy theories and politics IRL these 90% turn into 10%, if you really care about socializing you'll have more meaningful interactions with the grandma living next door than with the queer black queen zuckerbot ™ It's like if people asked supermarkets to hide plastic apples amongst the real on…

What if socializing IRL is something you can practice with pro-social bots? Or, what if depressed people find the pressure of consequences too stressful to “just go outside and make friends”, and so the realistic options are chatbot or not enough socialization? There are obvious nuanced issues and risks here but to distill it down to a one liner like “try to socialize IRL” is myopic.

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Post by epictacactus »

yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #209
PartiallyTyped wrote: post #183

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Everyone wants to be the hero in their own story, changing your beliefs requires introspection and humility. It's far easier to blame somebody else than yourself and take responsibility. It's trivial to feed people some narrative that trivializes reality and, in their mind, acknowledges them as underdogs and elevates them as "right". The triviality of this allows malevolent actors to disrupt society and produce a cha…

I think that’s right. I broadly agree with everything you’ve written here. I’m just dissatisfied with this as a status quo, where more reasonable people have [justifiably] resigned themselves to the reality that reasoning with the unreasonable doesn’t usually pay [moral] dividends.

But in reality, this has been the status quo for all of Humanity. It’s just that we now have this infinite ledger via the internet to document it. Only 200 years ago, your “honest opinion” would find you in the gallows more often than not across the world. This “progressed” to social exile in lieu of said gallows, and now to seeking out the like minded in echo chambers. I will hold out hope that interfacing with articulate AI’s can support more people to regain their identity and confidence where so many lack the courage to try publicly (or are surrounded by the foolish).

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cdcox wrote: post #167

This was probably an okay idea terribly implemented. GenAI creators on social media kind of sense. Neurosama, an AI streamer, is massively popular. Silllytavern which lets people make and chat with characters or tell stories with LLMs feeds Openrouter 20 million messages a day, which is a fraction of it's totally usage. Anecdotally I've have non tech friends learn how to install Git and work an API to get this one wo…

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Post by asdff »

freedomben wrote: post #170
belter wrote: post #91

If you accepted digital tokens as ‘money’, don't be surprised to have AI faces as friends...

Money is whatever people agree it is. Printed pieces of paper or recorded bits in a database are no more inherently valuable than digital tokens, yet everyone accepts them as "money". AI faces are no surprise, but I fail to see the connection you are going for.

Because the government backs the dollar. The government doesn’t back runescape gp for instance. It has value yes but its also not money. Otherwise anything one could trade could count as money. I traded my couch for beer now its money if we only defined money by having some value and ability to trade it.

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Post by deergomoo »

rsynnott wrote: post #88

Do they not have anyone sensible left in the room? Like, you’d expect that at some point someone would have said ‘these are comically terrible, we cannot allow them to see the light of day’.

I feel like there must be some sort of disassociation that kicks in when you spend long enough in the upper echelons of these gargantuan corporations. It's almost like spending long enough dealing with abstractions like MAUs, DAUs, and engagement metrics make you forget that actually, at the bottom of it all are real humans using your product.

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Post by werdnapk »

asdev wrote: post #215

I hope the stock gets destroyed next earnings when people realize they've been spending all this money on AI all to not ship a single meaningful feature nor derive any revenue leveraging it. They did the exact same thing with the whole "Metaverse" thing

Yet, there stock is up over 70-80% last year and I have no idea what they really have to show for it.
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