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Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Post by WD-42 »

qntmfred wrote: post #52

I get the hate, but I'd be open to trying out a social media experience that is a mix of human and bots, especially as the bots get better at acting like reasonable humans. Stack Overflow was great when it came out. But the whatever percent of humans who were mean and obnoxious and wouldn't let you just ask your questions eventually ruined it all. Then ChatGPT came out without any humans to get in the way of me askin…

“I’ve have negative interactions with people online so I’d rather give up and talk to nice robots instead.”

We are doomed as a society.

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Post by TheNewsIsHere »

martythemaniak wrote: post #135
dingnuts wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Surely you're aware of all the proud red hats out there. Maybe Trump won because he's really good at this religion?

This is a huge nitpick, but I’d argue that Trumpism is a cult. Religions typically have a sacrosanct (if slowly evolving) set of principals that are more-or-less related and internally consistent. “Murder is bad. The Golden Rule.”

Trump and the nut jobs that believe in him are engaged in cultism. The direction of the day is whichever way the wind is blowing in his favor, yesterday’s perspectives be damned.

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Post by brookst »

rsynnott wrote: post #131
brookst wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fact is it is hard to make a great product. I don’t think we need complex conspiracy theories to explain bad ones. Odds are the product team cherry picked conversations for internal demos, their management wanted press and promotions, KPIs were around engagement and not quality, and nobody had perspective and authority to say “this sucks, we can’t release it”.

It’s not hard to identify, before launching, “this is unacceptably bad”. Like, I think this is actually quite a bit worse than Microsoft Tay, which others mentioned, as an example of “how could you possibly launch this”? Tay was reckless, and you’ve got to assume that they knew there was at least a change it could work out as it did, but in this case the product _as launched_ was clearly unacceptable; it didn’t requi…

I wish I agreed. But I have seen many products launched where only true believers who internalized the limitations were involved in testing. Yes, a good org with self-critical people and an independent red team and execs who cared about quality would not have made this blunder. Getting that org stuff right sounds easy but is nigh impossible if it doesn’t align to the company culture.

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Post by komaromy »

ErikAugust wrote: post #123
rsynnott wrote: post #88

Do they not have anyone sensible left in the room? Like, you’d expect that at some point someone would have said ‘these are comically terrible, we cannot allow them to see the light of day’.

I wonder if their product people get their ideas from Hacker News. Just the other day, a top thread comment was about an idea for a social network where you would receive tons of engagement from bots. Coincidentally (or not), Meta actually took a first step in that direction days later.

Big tech would never ship anything that fast.

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Post by roominator »

laweijfmvo wrote: post #130
namaria wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the price for Mr Zuckerberg's ownership structure. On the one hand, no one can dispute him. On the other hand, no one can dispute him.

this is exactly what happened

I could also see this being some executive trying to justify the word "AI" in their title with an initiative that should "make number go up" wrt to engagement or something.

"When we have more users engagement goes up, let's just _make more users_".

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Post by MrMcCall »

namaria wrote: post #102
rsynnott wrote: post #88

Do they not have anyone sensible left in the room? Like, you’d expect that at some point someone would have said ‘these are comically terrible, we cannot allow them to see the light of day’.

That's the price for Mr Zuckerberg's ownership structure. On the one hand, no one can dispute him. On the other hand, no one can dispute him.

And he is personally responsible for so much misery on Earth that he can likely never do enough good to make up for it, not that he's going to try.

The reason he never looks happy is because he is never happy. Same with his fellow oligarchs; they can get pleasure in bunches but never happiness, they can be smug but never have peace. Happiness is what happens as a result of your helping others become happier; there is no shortcut, there is no other way.

Zuck has only ever worked for himself and his "peers". History is riddled with those losers, the richer the worser. It is not just human nature but the nature of the universe vis a vis our human responsibility as choosers of goodness or its opposites.

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Post by pvaldes »

drivingmenuts wrote: post #39

I don't know whether to be amused or furious. They're trying to create personal social interaction with a non-person without real intelligence, conscience or morals. So they can fool people into emotional attachments and learn more about how to sell things to us. Goddamnit. I kinda feel that should be not only illegal, but just short of a capitol crime.

> They're trying to create personal social interaction with a non-person without real intelligence, conscience or morals.

So, they rediscovered Internet trolls?

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Post by PartiallyTyped »

rm_-rf_slash wrote: post #90
qntmfred wrote: post #52

I get the hate, but I'd be open to trying out a social media experience that is a mix of human and bots, especially as the bots get better at acting like reasonable humans. Stack Overflow was great when it came out. But the whatever percent of humans who were mean and obnoxious and wouldn't let you just ask your questions eventually ruined it all. Then ChatGPT came out without any humans to get in the way of me askin…

I can’t think of any way where a social media app using bots to discourage wrongthink doesn’t come across as dystopian, and also a little sad.

I feel that these days "wrongthink" is a dogwhistle, by all means, just use X or pravda social.
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