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Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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> insufficiently political (ie saying her programming wasn’t done by black females). If you're trying to create a persona, having someone that knows about the background said persona would likely have is not political, it's just common sense. It's like having a group of people from Brazil design outdoor clothing for Norwegians or something along those lines. Now, who knows how much the responses were hallucinated or…

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We all do know that doctors do have to go through a whole residency phase in their training where they spend a lot of time with sick people and work under the supervision of more experienced doctors, gaining personal experience with the field. I think first-hand experience matters quite a bit, actually.

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It's getting weird that people cite ChatGPT to settle debates. Even on places like HN where supposedly people have a technical background and know they shouldn't blindly trust an LLM as a source of truth. Even with the banners it has warning about this.

Technical knowledge and wisdom are two very different things. There is an excess of the former here, on this site, in this field, but a comical dearth of the latter.

I have but one upvote to give you, good sir/madam, when I wish I had 100.

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Do they not have anyone sensible left in the room? Like, you’d expect that at some point someone would have said ‘these are comically terrible, we cannot allow them to see the light of day’.

It's like people have already forgotten why people used the non-human beings in Westworld. One of the first things we're going to use them for is amusement and having them represent anything sentimental or sensitive is going to make them a target like this. It was irresponsible. There's something essentially wrong with Meta and Google where they can do tech but not products anymore. I'd argue it's because the honest…

I think Google and others are too distracted in collecting enterprise coin at the moment. They have a perfectly good consumer product in NotebookLM, but at the moment it has the quality of something an intern made.

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It's like people have already forgotten why people used the non-human beings in Westworld. One of the first things we're going to use them for is amusement and having them represent anything sentimental or sensitive is going to make them a target like this. It was irresponsible. There's something essentially wrong with Meta and Google where they can do tech but not products anymore. I'd argue it's because the honest…

I think Google and others are too distracted in collecting enterprise coin at the moment. They have a perfectly good consumer product in NotebookLM, but at the moment it has the quality of something an intern made.

Why would consumers pay for NotebookLM? It’s basically an (impressive) party trick.

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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This was probably an okay idea terribly implemented. GenAI creators on social media kind of sense.

Neurosama, an AI streamer, is massively popular.

Silllytavern which lets people make and chat with characters or tell stories with LLMs feeds Openrouter 20 million messages a day, which is a fraction of it's totally usage. Anecdotally I've have non tech friends learn how to install Git and work an API to get this one working.

There are unfortunately tons of secretly AI made influencers on Instagram.

When Meta started these profiles in 2023 it was less clear how the technologies were going to be used and most were just celeb licensed.

I think a few things went wrong. The biggest is GenAI has the highest value in narrowcast and the lowest value in broadcast. GenAI can do very specific and creative things for an individual but when spread to everyone or used with generic prompts it start averaging and becomes boring. It's like Google showing its top searches: it's always going to just be for webpages. Making an GenAI profile isn't fun because these AIs don't really do interesting things on their own. I chatted with these they had very little memory and almost no willingness to do interesting things.

Second, mega corps are, for better or worse, too risk averse to make these any fun. GenAI is most wild and interesting when it can run on its own or do unhinged things. There are several people on Twitter who have ongoing LLM chat rooms that get extremely weird and fascinating but in a way a tech company would never allow. Silllytavern is most interesting/human when the LLM takes things off the rails and challenges or threatens the user. One of the biggest news stories of 2023 was an LLM telling a journalist it loved him. But Meta was never going to make a GenAI that would do self-looping art or have interesting conversations. These LLMs probably are guardrailed into the ground and probably also have watcher models on them. You can almost feel that safeness and lack of risk taking in the boringness of the profiles if you look up the ones they set up in 2023. Football person, comedy person, fashion person, all geared to advice and stuff safe and boring.

I suspect these things had almost zero engagement and they had shuttered most of them. I wonder what Meta was planning with the new ones they were going to roll out.

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I get the hate, but I'd be open to trying out a social media experience that is a mix of human and bots, especially as the bots get better at acting like reasonable humans. Stack Overflow was great when it came out. But the whatever percent of humans who were mean and obnoxious and wouldn't let you just ask your questions eventually ruined it all. Then ChatGPT came out without any humans to get in the way of me askin…

People should try to socialize in real life. The web is 90% rage baits, trolls, people completely brain washed by fringe conspiracy theories and politics IRL these 90% turn into 10%, if you really care about socializing you'll have more meaningful interactions with the grandma living next door than with the queer black queen zuckerbot ™ It's like if people asked supermarkets to hide plastic apples amongst the real on…

> It's like if people asked supermarkets to hide plastic apples amongst the real ones because they look better and never went bad

I’m stealing this

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> Conversations with the characters quickly went sideways when some users peppered them with questions including who created and developed the AI. Liv, for instance, said that her creator team included zero Black people and was predominantly white and male. It was a “pretty glaring omission given my identity”, the bot wrote in response to a question from the Washington Post columnist Karen Attiah. This is probably tr…

Microsoft tried this ages ago with their Tay chatbot and found how quickly it went bad.

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If you accepted digital tokens as ‘money’, don't be surprised to have AI faces as friends...

Money is whatever people agree it is. Printed pieces of paper or recorded bits in a database are no more inherently valuable than digital tokens, yet everyone accepts them as "money". AI faces are no surprise, but I fail to see the connection you are going for.
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