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Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Post by AdrianB1 »

noirbot wrote: post #63
guywithahat wrote: post #11

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That seems to miss the point. The bot is likely correct in that its development team didn't align with its identity. If anything, it lived up to its training in essentially calling out its own oddity in the way that black and queer people online did when they found out about it. Having it lie about its dev team certainly wouldn't have helped in this case. The issue is Meta making a bot to essentially masquerade as an…

Most probably the bot does not know the identity of the programmers. How would it?

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Post by hopfenspergerj »

Trasmatta wrote: post #3

> Conversations with the characters quickly went sideways when some users peppered them with questions including who created and developed the AI. Liv, for instance, said that her creator team included zero Black people and was predominantly white and male. It was a “pretty glaring omission given my identity”, the bot wrote in response to a question from the Washington Post columnist Karen Attiah. This is probably tr…

If you’re meta and you have to defend the AI by admitting “it’s not really intelligent and everything it says is bullshit”, that’s not a position of strength.

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Post by ErikAugust »

rsynnott wrote: post #88

Do they not have anyone sensible left in the room? Like, you’d expect that at some point someone would have said ‘these are comically terrible, we cannot allow them to see the light of day’.

I wonder if their product people get their ideas from Hacker News. Just the other day, a top thread comment was about an idea for a social network where you would receive tons of engagement from bots. Coincidentally (or not), Meta actually took a first step in that direction days later.

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Post by kraftman »

xracy wrote: post #80

I feel like the question I want to ask is "Why do we need AI-Profiles?" Like, I can barely be bothered to keep in touch with my friends and family. Why do I need a fake person to be follow on social media? What purpose does it serve? What possibly comes out of this that is positive?

Its the other way around. It's about giving people the attention they need exactly because they dont keep in touch any more, so they have a reason to come back to the platform.

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Post by brookst »

mupuff1234 wrote: post #109
rsynnott wrote: post #88

Do they not have anyone sensible left in the room? Like, you’d expect that at some point someone would have said ‘these are comically terrible, we cannot allow them to see the light of day’.

I can't fathom how anyone thought this was a sensible thing. It's so bad I have to wonder if there's a different angle here, maybe they think that releasing something so terribly bad will make it easier when they release something less comically bad? Idk.

Fact is it is hard to make a great product. I don’t think we need complex conspiracy theories to explain bad ones.

Odds are the product team cherry picked conversations for internal demos, their management wanted press and promotions, KPIs were around engagement and not quality, and nobody had perspective and authority to say “this sucks, we can’t release it”.

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Post by ironman1478 »

AdrianB1 wrote: post #113
xracy wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People will discriminate against people of color because they are visually people of color. Whether or not they 'announce it'. It's utter BS to suggest that the only reason people discriminate against black people is because they 'identify as black'. Like, if all the black people would just stop identifying as 'black' racism would be solved? Maybe I'm misreading your comment, but all of the responses to this suggest…

I believe that many people in US are just pyromaniac firefighters that start fired to play hero extinguishing it. Racism is just one of the fires. In my country (Eastern Europe) racism is approximately non-existent, but nobody was putting gas on fire for decades or more. I know a black guy that is quite famous around here, do you know what he never said? "I am a proud black person". He is a great person and people lo…

Ever heard of the Bosnian war? Many in eastern europe hate gypsies too. Maybe they don't discriminate on the color of skin specifically all, but they definitely hate based on culture.

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Post by brookst »

ncr100 wrote: post #32
smegger001 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it raises several questions, my first question (besides the obvious question of why is this a thing at all) is does the chatbot actually have the information about the racial background of its dev team or is it hallucinating up an answer when it lacks the data. if it does have that sort of knowledge why personally identifiable information about individual devs accessable to a public facing chatbot and how much of the…

Hallucination. An issue we care about and it just answers regardless of accuracy. Boo.

So you fact checked this comment before posting, right? Because I am deeply interested if this was hallucination or used RAG and web search to provide the answer, but I can’t tell if you just chose to hallucinate without grounding.

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Post by dingnuts »

noirbot wrote: post #34
arresin wrote: post #2

> Instagram profile of ‘proud Black queer momma’, created by Meta, said her development team included no Black people It’s such a weird religion.

Religion? Isn't the weirdness here that someone at Meta seems to have decided that they should make an AI bot that proudly announced its identity, despite literally not being proud, queer, black, or a mother? Who does this serve? Why? I could see a bot that's into fitness or some other hobby having a niche as a wrapper around an AI meant for advice on the hobby, but there's a certain crazy hubris to going "this LLM c…

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Post by alephxyz »

noirbot wrote: post #34
arresin wrote: post #2

> Instagram profile of ‘proud Black queer momma’, created by Meta, said her development team included no Black people It’s such a weird religion.

Religion? Isn't the weirdness here that someone at Meta seems to have decided that they should make an AI bot that proudly announced its identity, despite literally not being proud, queer, black, or a mother? Who does this serve? Why? I could see a bot that's into fitness or some other hobby having a niche as a wrapper around an AI meant for advice on the hobby, but there's a certain crazy hubris to going "this LLM c…

It's performative art. A critique of social constructionism by taking to its extreme.

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Post by laweijfmvo »

namaria wrote: post #102
rsynnott wrote: post #88

Do they not have anyone sensible left in the room? Like, you’d expect that at some point someone would have said ‘these are comically terrible, we cannot allow them to see the light of day’.

That's the price for Mr Zuckerberg's ownership structure. On the one hand, no one can dispute him. On the other hand, no one can dispute him.

this is exactly what happened
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