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Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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The thread is here and... it's pretty wild. This doesn't seem like it was a well-thought out idea to release this without some more consideration beforehand. https://bsky.app/profile/karenattiah.bsky.social/post/3letty...

Soo...they didn't learn anything from Microsoft's failed attempts at leaving an A.I. on the net ??

what was it ?? 48 hours before MS had to take them down ?

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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> Instagram profile of ‘proud Black queer momma’, created by Meta, said her development team included no Black people It’s such a weird religion.

it raises several questions, my first question (besides the obvious question of why is this a thing at all) is does the chatbot actually have the information about the racial background of its dev team or is it hallucinating up an answer when it lacks the data. if it does have that sort of knowledge why personally identifiable information about individual devs accessable to a public facing chatbot and how much of the…

Hallucination. An issue we care about and it just answers regardless of accuracy.

Boo.

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> Instagram profile of ‘proud Black queer momma’, created by Meta, said her development team included no Black people It’s such a weird religion.

Religion?

Isn't the weirdness here that someone at Meta seems to have decided that they should make an AI bot that proudly announced its identity, despite literally not being proud, queer, black, or a mother?

Who does this serve? Why?

I could see a bot that's into fitness or some other hobby having a niche as a wrapper around an AI meant for advice on the hobby, but there's a certain crazy hubris to going "this LLM can really speak as a member of an identity group".

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Who thought this was ever a good idea?

If you are going to build a series of anthropomorphized chat bots, what are you going to do, NOT build a proud black queer mama that underserved users can connect with? Sounds racist/homophobic to do that, hence you must build chatbots for a wide swathe of the world ---> Voila.

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I'm saying is that it the AI to me illustrates how much of a self-own drawing these cultural battle lines is. If you choose to describe yourself by the colour of your skin first and foremost then you're telling everyone that you think that's relevant information which is, well.. the entire problem - you're telling everyone around you that you think it has predictive power. But that's what racists are, people who…

We can't expect people whose lives are, in great part, defined by the societal oppression they face, to be at the forefront of trying to erase the distinctions the bigots hold over them – not least because it'd be ineffective, serving only to hide the abuse. The categorisation schemes used by bigots (e.g. racists) do have predictive power: for the behaviour of bigots, and the resulting effects on the social context o…

Being proud of your identity and culture is not a problem at all!

The thing that I feel that this silly AI bot draws into sharp contrast is the idea that there can simultaneously be "asian/white/black culture" - as a generalised thing, not a person's experience in a neighbourhood or a country, literally just "white/black/asianness" (or whatever), and obviously the connotation there is that skin colour is intrinsically linked to culture, but then we expect people to pretend that skin colour has no correlation.

You can't have it both ways, it's a contradiction.

And here we have, err, a computer program, or the output of one, pulling in all of this stuff and claiming that it has a culture based on experiences of being a skin colour that it doesn't and can't even have.

It's just madness on every level!

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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The thread is here and... it's pretty wild. This doesn't seem like it was a well-thought out idea to release this without some more consideration beforehand. https://bsky.app/profile/karenattiah.bsky.social/post/3letty...

> They admitted it internally, to me It's becoming an increasingly apparent problem that people don't understand that LLMs frequently hallucinate, especially when asked to introspect about themselves. This was 100% a hallucination.

People don't understand that LLMs are just statistical magic, by design of the LLM providers because LLMs wouldn't take off if people understood they are just statistical magic.

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We can't expect people whose lives are, in great part, defined by the societal oppression they face, to be at the forefront of trying to erase the distinctions the bigots hold over them – not least because it'd be ineffective, serving only to hide the abuse. The categorisation schemes used by bigots (e.g. racists) do have predictive power: for the behaviour of bigots, and the resulting effects on the social context o…

Being proud of your identity and culture is not a problem at all! The thing that I feel that this silly AI bot draws into sharp contrast is the idea that there can simultaneously be "asian/white/black culture" - as a generalised thing, not a person's experience in a neighbourhood or a country, literally just "white/black/asianness" (or whatever), and obviously the connotation there is that skin colour is intrinsicall…

That's a false dichotomy. The "intrinsically" connotation is not there (you're reading that in), but civil rights activists often discuss the relationships between culture and skin colour. Any book (or Wikipedia article) on the subject should provide this information, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_race_theory.

I do agree that the AI bots were farcical, but they don't highlight what you're saying. You're talking about nth-degree pushback-to-pushback as though it's the actual facts-on-the-ground, which it's not. (The "culture war" is composed solely of the assumption that there is culture war, and people's responses to that: unlike the real issues, like systematic oppression, it'll go away as soon as we stop talking about it.)

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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I don't know whether to be amused or furious. They're trying to create personal social interaction with a non-person without real intelligence, conscience or morals. So they can fool people into emotional attachments and learn more about how to sell things to us.

Goddamnit. I kinda feel that should be not only illegal, but just short of a capitol crime.

Re: Meta is killing off its AI-powered Instagram and Facebook profiles

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> Those AI profiles included Liv, whose profile described her as a “proud Black queer momma of 2 & truth-teller” I find this stuff absolutely fascinating, that even an AI bot tries to do this sort of thing. It just strikes me that there is no world in which racism will ever die out as long as things like this are happening. You can't have it both ways. If race is just melanin content then we have no issue. That's the…

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