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Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by garazy »

vm wrote: post #47
simonsarris wrote: post #8

Wow. Lots of impressions here. MySpace is so small now! And shrinking! Let us never forget that history. Tumblr and pinterest are adding a lot fewer users than I thought. Gosh just look at the page. Google+ looks very clean and beautiful compared to Facebook these days. I'm reminded of when everybody used to say "Facebook looks very clean and beautiful compared to MySpace these days". Google has a big leg up here as…

First, the OA's comparison is meaningless. It focuses on vanity metrics rather than engagement or retention. A lot is written on that topic, so I won't repeat (see Tim Ferris: http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2009/05/19/vanity-metri... ). This article is excellent optimization for link baiting. And it doesn't matter because most of these sites don't compete against each other. Each of these media sites has a diff…

I agree with this.

The implementation of Google+ Platform on websites seems to have plateaued recently, meaning, if these stats are correct, the visitors are probably not coming in from the web, they may be being coerced in from other Google products.

http://trends.builtwith.com/widgets/Google-Plus-One-Platform

Disclaimer I run BuiltWith.

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by gurkendoktor »

MattSayar wrote: post #57

Somewhat off-topic, but this has been bugging me for years: for countries that use , instead of . in decimal numbers, how do they pronounce it? ie For the number 12.3 million, I could say "twelve point three million" or "twelve dot three million." For 12,3 million, do you say "twelve comma three million"?

Germans do that - we even call IEEE floats "floating comma numbers".

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by incongruity »

saraid216 wrote: post #145
incongruity wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Truth be told, I'm not arguing strongly in support of the original bit of anecdotal evidence. I was more responding to the quote: "Why is there the need to respond to data with anecdotes?" I feel as though I made my case pretty well for a generalized reason, above. In this particular case, as I said: "The key here is that the number reported is "unique visitors" – what, exactly, is this telling us? Not much at all be…

Conversation is pretty worthless when it's speculation piled on speculation. If that's your thing, then well... okay. I mean... if there's much ado about little data, why is it that MORE ado is better?

The simplest answer: see work on abductive reasoning and hypothesis building.

But, more fully, anecdotes aren't speculation. They're individual experience. They are not, of course, a statistically representative sample. That doesn't mean it's worthless – it's just not authoritative, but it is still some person's real experience (internet truthiness aside). The all-or nothing view of validity and knowledge is problematic – and likely not reflective of how you or anyone else actually deals with reasoning.

Beyond that if it sparked discussion that either spurred the uncovering of real data or identified the requirement of further considerations, it's still of value.

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by sandGorgon »

simonsarris wrote: post #8

Wow. Lots of impressions here. MySpace is so small now! And shrinking! Let us never forget that history. Tumblr and pinterest are adding a lot fewer users than I thought. Gosh just look at the page. Google+ looks very clean and beautiful compared to Facebook these days. I'm reminded of when everybody used to say "Facebook looks very clean and beautiful compared to MySpace these days". Google has a big leg up here as…

One of the biggest wins of Google+ is its mobile app. Light years ahead of Facebook - which is slow and a power hog (without focusing on their recent bugs)

For the HN crowd, several influential releases/announcements are now using Google+ exclusively: Linus Torvalds, lennart poettering, Cyanogenmod, Ingo Molnar.

They still havent gotten the public/private interaction model right yet. For example, Linus went on an extended rant complaining about Google Events being used by uninvited spammers (which then got fixed when Vic Gundotra took it up)

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by mediocregopher »

To anyone late to the party, the original title of the post pointed out that G+ has apparently surpassed LinkedIn in usage, which might explain why many posts focus on LinkedIn as a site for comparison.

The post was on the front-page with the original title for hours, I don't know why a mod decided that was the time to change it.

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by danbmil99 »

To quote Chelsea Handler (who doesn't get mentioned enough here on HN I think), G+ is a hot mess. It takes forever to load, it's confusing and opaque, and it simply doesn't, and probably won't, ever have the reach to be relevant.

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by zeroonetwothree »

vibrunazo wrote: post #97
MattSayar wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the insight. One more thing I can't figure out based on your reply is: how do you differentiate a decimal number from a list of numbers? For example, consider the list: 12.3, 7.6, 3.2 It's easy to see the three different numbers. But otherwise, wouldn't it be: 12,3, 7,6, 3,2 And how would you dictate that? "twelve comma three comma seven comma six comma..."?

Those would be grammatically correct around here, I don't think I ever seen anything like that in the real world. In actual math classes people will usually just put parenthesis around numbers: (12, 3), (7, 6), (3,2). Sometimes people will actually replace the comma for the dot to avoid confusion (there's no hard rule set on stone, as long as you're being clear, it's ok). Sometimes people will just space them differe…

In the US using a dot like ⋅ (&sdot) is common.

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by kinleyd »

jkn wrote: post #83
simonsarris wrote: post #8

Wow. Lots of impressions here. MySpace is so small now! And shrinking! Let us never forget that history. Tumblr and pinterest are adding a lot fewer users than I thought. Gosh just look at the page. Google+ looks very clean and beautiful compared to Facebook these days. I'm reminded of when everybody used to say "Facebook looks very clean and beautiful compared to MySpace these days". Google has a big leg up here as…

Speaking of the format, there is something that bothers me with the aesthetics of Google+, and I wonder if the feeling is shared by anyone on HN: It feels like there is too much emphasis on the interface. To exaggerate a bit, using all the bubble boxes and colored buttons feels like operating a Fisher Price toy. I would rather have a discreet and elegant interface that emphasizes the content. Maybe the mobile app is…

I have to agree with you: IMO G+ on the desktop is kludgy. For example it's use of the mouseover to highlight the option buttons on the left, as well the highlighted/unhighlighted color choice, are not intuitive or what we are used to, and the number of tabs on the top for your Circles should be much higher than the default 3 (excluding the More tab). The upshot is more mouse clicks are required to get around - that bugs me.

Apart from that kind of peeve, I like G+ a lot and spend quite a bit of time there. I go to FB on occasion to see what my family and friends have posted but haven't really interacted much since engaging on G+.

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by kinleyd »

sandGorgon wrote: post #154
simonsarris wrote: post #8

Wow. Lots of impressions here. MySpace is so small now! And shrinking! Let us never forget that history. Tumblr and pinterest are adding a lot fewer users than I thought. Gosh just look at the page. Google+ looks very clean and beautiful compared to Facebook these days. I'm reminded of when everybody used to say "Facebook looks very clean and beautiful compared to MySpace these days". Google has a big leg up here as…

One of the biggest wins of Google+ is its mobile app. Light years ahead of Facebook - which is slow and a power hog (without focusing on their recent bugs) For the HN crowd, several influential releases/announcements are now using Google+ exclusively: Linus Torvalds, lennart poettering, Cyanogenmod, Ingo Molnar. They still havent gotten the public/private interaction model right yet. For example, Linus went on an ext…

The G+ mobile app is really nice to use. It surprises me that the G+ desktop team is lagging so much behind the mobile team.

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by xentronium »

MattSayar wrote: post #57

Somewhat off-topic, but this has been bugging me for years: for countries that use , instead of . in decimal numbers, how do they pronounce it? ie For the number 12.3 million, I could say "twelve point three million" or "twelve dot three million." For 12,3 million, do you say "twelve comma three million"?

12.3 million in Russian is either less correct "12 и 3 миллиона" (12 and 3 million) or more correct "12 целых 3 десятых миллиона" (12 whole 3 tenth million, same as rational fraction).
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