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Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by spindritf »

Josh2600hz wrote: post #38
jedberg wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seconded. Compete's numbers are just made up. I know for sure they are off by more than an order of magnitude for reddit (or at least were a year ago).

Most of the traffic tracking on the web involves plugins (generally in the form of a toolbar). I don't know about you guys, but I haven't had a 3rd party toolbar in my browser interface in a long time. Compete, Alexa, etc. they're all tracking people who don't understand technology.

> Compete, Alexa, etc. they're all tracking people who don't understand technology.

That would mean that G+ is even stronger as it seems mainly popular with the tech crowd.

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by eli »

pestaa wrote: post #48
Josh2600hz wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of the traffic tracking on the web involves plugins (generally in the form of a toolbar). I don't know about you guys, but I haven't had a 3rd party toolbar in my browser interface in a long time. Compete, Alexa, etc. they're all tracking people who don't understand technology.

I generally agree with your sentiment, but let's not get carried away: using 3rd party toolbars does not automatically render you unaware of technology.

No, but it makes for a very non-representative sample. Consider the number of people who lack the administrative rights to install a toolbar on the computer they use most often.

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by robert_nsu »

mtkd wrote: post #49

How does he define a 'visit'? It's a vague concept now - from an ISP perspective hitting a page with G+ (or T or FB) button on it when signed-in takes down a 'visit' sized payload. When I +1 a page using Chrome Extension - is that a visit? Same with mobile apps - what's a mobile 'visit' - an API GET?

I'd like to know also. I mean, all this post says to me is "Google+ gets more traffic than LinkedIn". That isn't much of a feat when you consider Google integrating G+ into searches, the use of browser extensions, etc.

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by gfodor »

Driving first time visitors doesn't mean anything for a social network unless they have retention. Show me that Google+ visitors return to the site regularly and I'll start to think this is more than just measuring the size of your car's engine to determine its top speed. Anecdotal evidence tells me otherwise -- there are tons of people on G+, but nobody uses it.

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by eli »

toemetoch wrote: post #45
therealarmen wrote: post #12

Sigh. We're drawing conclusions from Compete again? I've said this before and I'll say it again; using Compete for quantitative traffic comparisons is flawed, particularly with social sites that utilize embeddable content. Their data has been proven wrong countless times. Until recently, Compete claimed Reddit ( http://siteanalytics.compete.com/reddit.com/ ) had less traffic than Digg ( http://siteanalytics.compete.c…

Agreed. According to one of Google's own services, google+ is pretty much dead: http://www.google.com/trends/viz?q=google+plus&graph=wee... compare with fb: http://www.google.com/trends/viz?q=facebook&graph=weekly... edit: thank you downvoters for illustrating the bias on HN. A fake stats piece promoting google as #1 on the frontpage? This place is turning into /. but with more google employees. I'm out.

Ugh. You can't divine traffic numbers from search volume and news mentions.

If that were the case, Mitt Romney should start a social network because he's crushing Facebook: http://www.google.com/trends/viz?q=romney&graph=weekly_i...

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by EricDeb »

Facebook has been putting a lot more ads in the newsfeed lately. I find it irritating because I can't just avoid them like I do with the ads on the right! These types of actions may lead more users to Google+

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by MattSayar »

Somewhat off-topic, but this has been bugging me for years: for countries that use , instead of . in decimal numbers, how do they pronounce it? ie For the number 12.3 million, I could say "twelve point three million" or "twelve dot three million." For 12,3 million, do you say "twelve comma three million"?

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by betterth »

Josh2600hz wrote: post #38
jedberg wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seconded. Compete's numbers are just made up. I know for sure they are off by more than an order of magnitude for reddit (or at least were a year ago).

Most of the traffic tracking on the web involves plugins (generally in the form of a toolbar). I don't know about you guys, but I haven't had a 3rd party toolbar in my browser interface in a long time. Compete, Alexa, etc. they're all tracking people who don't understand technology.

But it IS fair to say that the demographics of the set of users who have toolbars installed into their browser is different than those who do not.

Specifically, those that have them installed are more likely to be non-tech users than those without.

That's my guess with 0 data to back it up (but plenty of useless anecdotes!)

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by mullingitover »

huggyface wrote: post #23
programminggeek wrote: post #6

Yes, but I know dozens of people on LinkedIn. I know one active Google+ user and he's a bit of a Google fanboy to begin with. None of the non-techie people I know use Google+ or even mention it at all.

Yes, but I know dozens of people on LinkedIn. I know one active Google+ user and he's a bit of a Google fanboy to begin with. Why is there the need to respond to data with anecdotes? If I give a Google+ growth anecdote, does that invalidate yours? I have no idea why Google+ is being compared to LinkedIn. They have very little overlap. Even among Facebook and Google+ the overlap is limited. Nonetheless Google keeps it…

Here's some data: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4257458

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by vibrunazo »

therealarmen wrote: post #12

Sigh. We're drawing conclusions from Compete again? I've said this before and I'll say it again; using Compete for quantitative traffic comparisons is flawed, particularly with social sites that utilize embeddable content. Their data has been proven wrong countless times. Until recently, Compete claimed Reddit ( http://siteanalytics.compete.com/reddit.com/ ) had less traffic than Digg ( http://siteanalytics.compete.c…

Uh? It's actually saying reddit is bigger (1.8m) and growing, while digg is smaller (1.3m) and shrinking.
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