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Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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post #67

Wherever there is difficulty, there is also opportunity. I think the major thing stopping people from just going their own way is healthcare coverage. (Correct me if I'm wrong.) I wonder if I can hack a business model that somehow provides healthcare but also gathers together sourced projects, and freelancers to bid on building them, while also getting healthcare. (And if you opt out of healthcare, you can take the d…

Health insurance isn't /that/ big of an issue due to Obamacare and similar state programs. Yes, could have to pay almost $1k/mo to get insurance, but it's just one more expense along with rent, food, etc. It is more expensive than getting healthcare via an employer due to tax breaks, group negotiations, etc, it shouldn't stop people from going solo if they just treat it as another expense.

False - at least if you want to say this applies to 100% of states. In NY state, the marketplace (ACA) plans are HMO's, and with small networks. High deductibles.

Not that great. And it's not that cheap.

You're better off working somewhere, quitting, using the COBRA (1200-2k+ for fam), when it runs out getting another job, quitting, rinse repeat.

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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post #563

> Have you been fired in favor of foreign workers? 1) I work at a large company everyone in the US has heard of. When I walk in the public areas of the company or at lunch, it looks like we are based in Mumbai. There is no "diversity", it's one country in particular, which is India. (Funnily enough, this demographic isn't reflected in management) 2) I overheard the 4th level (above me) manager complaining to another…

> The last interview I gave was to an H1B who had an audio link in his earbuds to someone who feed him answers to my technical questions. How did you detect that?

he would repeat each and every question I asked, word for word. In attempt to give his researcher more time to google the question or think.

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I somewhat disagree with you about CS degrees. Though my data points are a bit dated. (And a couple academic CS acquaintances feel that there's are department level declines.) But the standard curriculum I'm familiar with always includes courses where you need to use C, or similar low level languages, to write an OS, compilers, networking stack, etc. And at least one course focused on a system language as a pre-req f…

While you are right, I think the evidence points to deficiencies in depth and breath. There are plenty or published articles discussing why the mega-interviews became a thing when employers started to realize CS graduates could not develop software. And then there's the H1B argument. If our educational pipeline is delivering people with solid skill sets, hiring H1B's should be rare because you could not justify it. B…

While I can vouch for there being CS graduates who seem mysteriously poor at SW dev/engineering/programming, I also know a chunk of my graduating class never made it into a SW eng career despite having solid CS foundations.

IMO many of them suffered not from being poor at stuff like writing a compiler or foundational CS (because I think some of them were better than me), but not really having a way to translate those core skills to jobs that wanted specific skills that differed. I've had fine luck getting jobs in languages I've never used, but so far as I can tell (a) most people don't even try because they believe requirements are requirements, and (b) it's less and less common consider deviation from "requirements" okay, particularly without connections of some sort.

For non SW engineer engineers it seems worse - I know a good number who've ended up starting unrelated businesses (e.g. making furniture) because they couldn't find a job within a year or so of getting a degree. Or who got masters degrees just to work for $40-$60k a year for 5+ years before finding a way to get paid better.

I do not buy the H1B argument. While I think hiring remote foreigners is now widespread and often an even more economic alternative, I have, for my whole life, seen positions written to be excessively niche, posted in places where actual job seekers will ignore or not see, and applications rejected to hire H1B hires, whether for traditional engineers (chemical, mechanical, etc.) or SW developers. My dad used to enjoy pointing out job ads that weren't supposed to get applicants in papers and magazines.

That said, there's a large mix of H1B hiring types. But most of what I've personally seen and witnessed has not struck me as savory. Every shenanigan in the books gets used - label a SW eng role as "programmer" or "IT system tech" role, muddle whether the comparative pay does or doesn't include benefits valued correctly, reject applicants for inane reasons to get the more "perfect fit" non-American.

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Over the past 2 years, my company has laid off over 70% of the US based engineers. Only, 20-30 are left. Many of those positions were "re-structured", and re-hired in Eastern Europe.

As an engineering manager, my job was not cut, but if I leave they will re-hire my position in Europe. Everyone in the US who managed to get another job, the replacement req was not filled in the US.

The engineering office in the US was shutdown, and the remaining folks mostly work from home.

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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post #562
post #87

35, male, American citizen. applied to 800 jobs, few technical interviews, no offers. i believe with the advent of AI, the landscape has changed faster than the job market has corrected for it. It will never go back to the glory days of tech people getting hired, its over.

> 35, male, American citizen. applied to 800 jobs, few technical interviews, no offers. Is your network nonexistent?

its huge, but i exhausted it completely, bad timing job market wise sometimes, other times roles too far outside my field

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

#606
post #206
post #87

35, male, American citizen. applied to 800 jobs, few technical interviews, no offers. i believe with the advent of AI, the landscape has changed faster than the job market has corrected for it. It will never go back to the glory days of tech people getting hired, its over.

I don't believe for a second that AI is the reason. In anything, AI has contributed to added jobs, or at the minimum a shift in resources toward AI.

I went to a bootcamp, (regret it), but the change from the learning process when i was in it (2021), to now, is steep. The use of AI in writing code has had to have an affect on the jr dev levels of hiring. How could it not? what seasoned SWE isnt more efficient now with the use of AI?

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Also there's going to be very little sympathy if people who have been earning 6-7 figure salaries working in their pajamas for the past decade are now going through a rough patch.

Shrug. I’ve done a lot of intensely creative work in my pajamas. I’ve burned a lot of unproductive hours on commuting and pointless in-person meetings.

Me too! I can understand why many/most folks might not have a lot of sympathy for formerly highly paid tech workers tho.

Personally, even for the not-so-highly paid tech workers, if you're complaining about "some foreigner willing to do it for less", you don't get a lot of sympathy from me. If they can do it, and are willing to do it for less, good on them!

Complaining about less well off folks coming and taking our jobs seems so Un-American. I'd be upset to lose my job, no doubt. But I'd be in good company.

I know there are a lot of folks eager to tell me how naive/ignorant I am, but the bottom line is that I'm allergic to entitlement.

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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post #598

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I am not aware of the South Korean software ecosystem, can you share a bit more info or point us to some? It sounds cool, I’m very interested in localized economies and software.

Korea is one of the 4 countries that I know of where a non-Google firm holds significant market share in search. One of only 2 democracies, the other being Japan. And Japan is ambiguous as their local player (Yahoo Japan) has been using Google for indexing for years (but is now switching). Instant messaging, online payments, online shopping, second hand market place, domestic hotel bookings, email are all local tech…

This is really great insight; thanks for sharing.

China is another country that has developed its own local apps, mainly because many global ones are banned there. Even if Google, Uber, and others had free rein, I don’t think they could compete with the existing options. The local apps are so tuned to Chinese culture, an American app just wouldn't be intuitive to them.

Do you think the local apps, aside from dating, are better than their U.S. counterparts, or is it mainly due to their strong local momentum? Could the Western apps compete in that market? It sounds like Uber is making some inroads.

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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You don't have to correct throwaway's opinion, you have to correct your online appearance. People reviewing your submission don't know these details you're giving and they won't ask. Unjust or not, that's the shallow first impression he got. It's like if a user does something wrong in your app, you don't blame or explain to the user what they did wrong. You figure out how to improve your UX. I came to similar conclus…

> I came to similar conclusions from your public profile. The defensiveness of your response would be a 7th red flag. This website is part of my public profile. Allowing people to shape an incorrect narrative of myself on this website is not something I will be doing. Especially when it is coming from anonymous posters who haven't shared their professional credentials. > you have to correct your online appearance Obv…

The fact that several people have mentioned your public image might deter them from hiring you should raise some serious concerns. Instead of getting defensive and stubborn, take a moment to reflect. This could explain why you're not receiving callbacks. Insisting that you're right and everyone else is wrong isn't helping you.

Given how competitive the job market is right now, you have a PR issue. It's important to take a deep breath and recognize that people are trying to offer you objective advice.

If you're not willing to improve your public profile, you can't expect to receive interest.

Have you ever had a friend in a terrible relationship, where everyone can see how bad it is except for them? You have a problem with your public image. If you don't think it accurately portrays you, then clean it up. From your post, it seems like you're involved in really interesting projects—why sabotage your good deeds?

Deleting your LinkedIn profile seems a bit extreme. You should be creating it in a very polished way. All you need is one job to come from it or to catch the eye of one recruiter.

You have to play the game. That sucks, but the freewheeling days seem to be over. Play the game or accept you are making the rock you're pushing uphill heavier.

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

#610
post #279

The longest period of unemployment I've ever experienced ended about 6 months ago. I was unemployed for 11 months. The company that finally hired me was intentionally targeting people with lots of experience. I have that. They also pay less than I used to make but I took it because I needed a job. Previous to that period of unemployment, my resume tended to get noticed. I got interviews from 3 applications out of 5.…

Why do you think the white male part is relevant? This is meant as an honest question. I know DEI is a thing, but it kind of already seems a bit out of fashion, and do we have any reason to believe that the labour market is easier for a Muslim woman? Idk, for me occams razor tells me that the labour market is just a bit shit for all genders and races at the moment..

There is some truth to this. A friend of mine is a recruiting manager at one of the big tech companies here in the valley. They use a scoring system for candidates that ranges from (iirc) 1.0 (don't hire) to 5.0 (should hire).

If you're female, you earn a point. If you're a minority, you get another point. So, before considering all the other skills and qualifications, you already have a few points ahead of the typical white male applicant.

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