The fact that all my existing computers are incompatible with the new version of Windows and that I need to buy all new machines is the dumbest decision ever. I resent Microsoft’s decision and do not plan on ever upgrading to 11 because of it.
With 10 months of support remaining, Windows 10 still dominates
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Re: With 10 months of support remaining, Windows 10 still dominates
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t think you can run the IoT version for general purpose use. Also if you’re using windows on an IoT device…
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/iot/iot-enterprise... Enterprise IoT is "binary equivalent" to Enterprise.
This sounds like a strict upgrade to consumer-grade windows...
How does an enterprising user get a legal hold on one of those licenses?
Re: With 10 months of support remaining, Windows 10 still dominates
#13Of course, most Windows 10 PCs don't have the newer hardware to upgrade to Windows 11. They are stuck at 10 and when support runs out it will run out.
Doesn't seem to be the case anymore: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42369757
Re: With 10 months of support remaining, Windows 10 still dominates
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/iot/iot-enterprise... Enterprise IoT is "binary equivalent" to Enterprise.
> Note: Microsoft does not publish feature updates through Windows Update for devices running Windows IoT Enterprise LTSC. This sounds like a strict upgrade to consumer-grade windows... How does an enterprising user get a legal hold on one of those licenses?
Re: With 10 months of support remaining, Windows 10 still dominates
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/iot/iot-enterprise... Enterprise IoT is "binary equivalent" to Enterprise.
> Note: Microsoft does not publish feature updates through Windows Update for devices running Windows IoT Enterprise LTSC. This sounds like a strict upgrade to consumer-grade windows... How does an enterprising user get a legal hold on one of those licenses?
Re: With 10 months of support remaining, Windows 10 still dominates
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Note: Microsoft does not publish feature updates through Windows Update for devices running Windows IoT Enterprise LTSC. This sounds like a strict upgrade to consumer-grade windows... How does an enterprising user get a legal hold on one of those licenses?
It is possible to change your Windows edition using open-source tools: https://massgrave.dev/change_windows_edition
Re: With 10 months of support remaining, Windows 10 still dominates
#17I am a hold out on upgrading, but mostly because of what I gather Microsoft's vision of the future of computing.
They took a page out of Apple's notebook, the one where the user doesn't know what they want, the company does.
Apparently we want:
- A requirement of a non-local Microsoft account to install or use it, with no opt-out
- An AI subsystem that tracks everything we do on the machine
- Requirement to upgrade hardware to install the OS
- Ads in our face
- A worse start menu
- A worse taskbar
- Dark patterns to get us to accept it all
I just want to buy an operating system for my hardware, not have Microsoft claim said hardware as their property. I'm the landlord, not the OS developer.I'll be using Windows 10 until I can't any longer for things that require Windows. For everything else, Linux.
Re: With 10 months of support remaining, Windows 10 still dominates
#18I wish I could switch over to Linux, I truly do, but it's still not ready. I recently tried out Linux Mint and immediately ran into an issue with my mouse wheel + back/forward buttons not working. Off to search for the solution and the level of effort to get it working right seemed in line with operations tasks I have to deal with at my FAANG job. I don't have the time, energy, nor patience for this bullshit just to get my mouse working properly. Imagine the hoops I'll have to jump through for all my games to work right. Also when I raise grievances like this with the Linux crowd, I either get the "try this distro" (which has its own problems) or some snarky answer. So yeah, we're not there yet.
Re: With 10 months of support remaining, Windows 10 still dominates
#19Anyone else here holding out? I am a hold out on upgrading, but mostly because of what I gather Microsoft's vision of the future of computing. They took a page out of Apple's notebook, the one where the user doesn't know what they want, the company does. Apparently we want: - A requirement of a non-local Microsoft account to install or use it, with no opt-out - An AI subsystem that tracks everything we do on the mach…
- A requirement of a non-local Microsoft account to install or use it, with no opt-out
With some effort, you can use local account: https://www.windowscentral.com/how-set-windows-11-without-mi... - Ads in our face
- A worse start menu
- A worse taskbar
Fix Explorer with Explorer Patcher: https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher . It was unusable otherwise for me.Re: With 10 months of support remaining, Windows 10 still dominates
#20It seems like everyone will be forced to switch to Linux or something. Obviously I’m not going to upgrade my perfectly good CPU to make windows happy.