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Facebook likes getting some of that sweet money from EU advertisers. EU can block payments from EU to Facebook.
Different threat model. You're thinking of big tech companies like Meta, who are big enough to warrant regulatory attention. I'm thinking of fly-by-night shady app developers that make flashlight/weather/"security"/IoT/game apps, that fly under the radar because they're too small.
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> All their other “products” are just suction pipes for hoovering up that data. I don't think that's true for their VR/MR hardware. That's Meta's attempt to get a product that is _not_ like that, but which instead gets them in a position similar to where Google and Apple are for phones. I.e., where they own the platform and can profit off of that.
> I don't think that's true for their VR/MR hardware. They literally record the cameras and 'screen', then send it off to their servers. The VR hardware absolutely spies on you. Even if you tell it not to, it still shows up in the mobile app.
Earlier discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42457073
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Thankfully the EU also has legislation that makes "share data to use" tactics illegal, so this shouldn't be a problem.
How are you going to enforce this against app developers outside of the EU?
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Different threat model. You're thinking of big tech companies like Meta, who are big enough to warrant regulatory attention. I'm thinking of fly-by-night shady app developers that make flashlight/weather/"security"/IoT/game apps, that fly under the radar because they're too small.
Not really the kind of apps people would sideload?
I think one of my personal issues with allowing Meta to access these private APIs is that they may not take "don't allow" for an answer. I have WhatsApp to talk to some family and I recently disabled allowing all contacts in iOS 18. WhatsApp now has a persistent notification at the top of messages to "Allow All Contacts". If Apple allows users to choose whether or not to give Meta access, and users choose "no", Meta…
> I have WhatsApp to talk to some family and I recently disabled allowing all contacts in iOS 18. WhatsApp now has a persistent notification at the top of messages to "Allow All Contacts". If this is still possible, then Apple fucked up the implementation of this feature, as clearly there should be no way to differentiate not having bothered to fill out a ton of contacts and having limited access for an app to see yo…
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/contacts/cnauthori...
The documentation for ContactAccessButton suggests only presenting it if you have limited access:
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/contactsui/contact...
edit: but that’s intended to be used specifically to respond to a contact search. I don’t use WhatsApp, but a “persistent notification” sounds unrelated to ContactAccessButton.
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Not really the kind of apps people would sideload?
People might not sideload a flashlight app, but they're probably going to sideload an IoT app (especially if they bought the corresponding product first) and games (especially if their friends are peer pressuring them into it).
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> All their other “products” are just suction pipes for hoovering up that data. I don't think that's true for their VR/MR hardware. That's Meta's attempt to get a product that is _not_ like that, but which instead gets them in a position similar to where Google and Apple are for phones. I.e., where they own the platform and can profit off of that.
> I don't think that's true for their VR/MR hardware. They literally record the cameras and 'screen', then send it off to their servers. The VR hardware absolutely spies on you. Even if you tell it not to, it still shows up in the mobile app.
Everyone wants more access to your (i)Phone