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Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by pfdietz »

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OP > …real work on Climate Change would have begun in 1981… I don’t think that’s incorrect even if you ascribe all of the era’s environmental decision making to energy scarcity. Carter still set a goal of 20% renewable energy by 2020, and that still would have made a significant impact. It seems obvious to me that environmental policy was in some part driven by concern for the environment itself, but that doesn’t cha…

* The main practical work the admin did wasn't solar but synthetic fuels cuz the Carter admin believed in peak oil. That's an incredibly polluting technology that didn't happen in our timeline. It's only possibly reasonable if it displaces tarsands, but if it doesn't we end up in the worst scenario. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_Fuels_Corporation * Aside, significant global warming became scientific consens…

One thing that happened under Carter was the deregulation of natural gas (the 1978 Natural Gas Policy Act). Before that, wellhead prices were federally regulated.

It's difficult to understand now, but natural gas was viewed as something in short supply back then that had to be price controlled. Of course the causation was in the other direction: price controls led to shortage, and once those were removed enormous new sources of gas began to be uncovered, eventually leading to the fracking revolution. Today in the US natural gas is a colossus, having beaten down coal and nuclear.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by atlintots »

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bhouston wrote: post #361

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My view of the future is that Israel’s borders will probably continue to expand opportunistically for the forseeable future. This is a doctrine known as Greater Israel. At some point the Egypt-Israel relationship could deteriorate and Israel could expand in that direction again. Overall expansionist/conquest urges are back in with Russia, US under Trump and Israel. We will probably see China also get into the act.

The idea that you're driving here, that Israel is some kind of expansionist "empire", is, frankly, ridiculous. Have you ever actually looked at a map of the middle east? Israel makes up 0.1% of the ME. Egypt is 46 times the size of Israel. If you look at a map of the ME, Israel is barely a dot on there. Talking about Israel, the 150th country in the world in size, in the same breath as China, Russia and the US - five…

You can be a small country by landmass and still be expansionist. Israel's map has only grown in size from 1949 until today.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by unitol »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #676
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> The trans topic is a wedge issue that has absolutely no impact on 99% of people. The idea of "gender identity" as based on a subjective inner sense of self, and that "gender identity" must supersede sex, fundamentally reframes a core characteristic of the entire human population. When implemented in law and policy, this affects everyone. The impact is mostly on women and girls, for whom female-only spaces are essen…

But dying because a fatally unhealthy pregnancy can't be terminated, or being forced to carry a rape pregnancy to term, or being denied contraception, or being shot in a classroom doesn't harm women and girls? Your priorities might be considered a little slanted. Gender identity is used by the right because - like most sex-related issues - it's emotive and triggering. It's a single issue dog whistle. Given the eviden…

You are making incorrect assumptions about my priorities. I don't support the political right either, for the reasons you mentioned and more.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by astura »

eastbound wrote: post #637
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FDR stripped 110,000 Americans of their property and herded them into concentration camps.

I’m not in USA and I don’t know about this story. Do you have a name for it so I can search?

It's commonly known as "Japanese Internment" or "Japanese-American Internment." But, honestly, you can just Google the full text of the comment and the correct results display (at least for me in incognito mode).

Actor George Takei was among the victims, and he's written about his experiences

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/20/1245844347/george-takei-my-lo...

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by foldr »

unitol wrote: post #689
InsideOutSanta wrote: post #666

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Your position is that this is about protecting women's spaces and making them feel safe and dignified. Your position is also that somebody like Buck Angel must use the women's bathroom, because he is "in fact still a woman." My assertion is that this is contradictory, because forcing somebody like Buck Angel to use the womens' bathroom will make women and girls feel less safe, not more.

This is about every female-only space, not just bathrooms. Consider prisons, for example. There have been many cases recently of male criminals being transferred to the female prison estate, on the basis of their self-declared so-called "female gender identity", who have then raped and in some cases impregnated women incarcerated with them. It should be obvious that the same risk is not present from other female pris…

You’re assuming that most women would rather share bathrooms with trans men than with trans women. I suspect that were these mad ideas ever to be fully implemented in practice, we’d find that that was not in fact their revealed preference.

The truth is that most of the people currently stirring up a moral panic around gender are barely even aware of the existence of trans men and simply haven’t thought this through properly. Which isn’t surprising, as they don’t care about the issue itself, but only its potential as a political wedge.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by epistasis »

kbutler wrote: post #474
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This is untrue unless “mass media” means “one issue each of Time and Newsweek quoting Reid Bryson”.

Not that this will convince anyone currently attempting to rewrite this out of history (or determined to believe those who rewrite history), but the media panic, reporting on the scientific discussion, was much broader than that. The scientific studies and opinions varied - it was not one-sided, but the "ice age" predictions were much more marketable, at least. 5 minutes of checking found three issues of Time, one fr…

It appears that you are the one attempting to rewrite, the claim is that both cooling and warming were reported on in mass media, not that just one was.

One can't search for this stuff without coming across lots of both warming and cooling articles. And one finds tons of intentional deception pushing cooling articles. Here's a Reuters article calling out one bit of misinformation pushing cooling articles that were not actually about cooling:

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/time-magazine-front-cover...

My question is why there is such a modern push to decieve about cooling in the mass media? What purpose does it serve for people?

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by edanm »

bhouston wrote: post #690
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The idea that you're driving here, that Israel is some kind of expansionist "empire", is, frankly, ridiculous. Have you ever actually looked at a map of the middle east? Israel makes up 0.1% of the ME. Egypt is 46 times the size of Israel. If you look at a map of the ME, Israel is barely a dot on there. Talking about Israel, the 150th country in the world in size, in the same breath as China, Russia and the US - five…

But Israel does have a leader who believes in expanding and it is. Israeli settlements are growing and annexing land. Land is being annexed in Gaza via the General’s plan. More land has been captured in Syria. And it isn’t yet clear if Israel will fully withdraw from Lebanon. It doesn’t matter what size Israel is. It has a super equipped army unlike any other country in the region and its population is growing while…

Everything I wrote is true even if Israel does annex all of Gaza and the West Bank, which is the only territorial claims that some extremist Israelis make. Extremists who unfortunately wield far more influence than they should, given their lack of support among the populace. (And to be clear, I think the entire settlement project is terrible and corrosive to Israel, and should be stopped and rolled back at once.) The majority of Israel doesn't care about taking the WB and Gaza - they only care about security, and are (very justifiably) afraid of a Palestinian state on Israel's border.

I don't think Israel's leader believes in expanding, btw - he only wants one thing, his own political survival. Everything else is secondary.

> It doesn’t matter what size Israel is. It has a super equipped army unlike any other country in the region and its population is growing while many countries around it are failed/fragile states (eg syria and Lebanon and sort of Egypt.).

First, it does matter what size Israel is. If you are claiming that Israel is expansionist, but it makes up literally a tiny blip on the map, then I think that's pretty relevant.

Secondly, I don't think the fact that its population is growing is relevant to this discussion? How does that matter? If you're saying that Israel is more succesfull than most of its neighbors, I agree, but not sure why you think it's relevant, or a mark against Israel?

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by edanm »

atlintots wrote: post #692
edanm wrote: post #682

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The idea that you're driving here, that Israel is some kind of expansionist "empire", is, frankly, ridiculous. Have you ever actually looked at a map of the middle east? Israel makes up 0.1% of the ME. Egypt is 46 times the size of Israel. If you look at a map of the ME, Israel is barely a dot on there. Talking about Israel, the 150th country in the world in size, in the same breath as China, Russia and the US - five…

You can be a small country by landmass and still be expansionist. Israel's map has only grown in size from 1949 until today.

> Israel's map has only grown in size from 1949 until today.

1. That's a very misleading talking point. Yes, technically growing from 0.09% of the middle east to 0.1% of the ME would be considering growth, but definitely not the kind of growth that would categorize any country as expansionist to any normal observer.

2. It's not even true! Israel captured and held the Sinai peninsula, which is 4 times the size of Israel IIRC, and then gave it back in exchange for peace. So the "expansionist" country that is so anti-peace, according to some people, and that might have designs on invading Egypt next, actually gave back territory that is 4 times the size of its own territories, for peace, with Egypt.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by anovikov »

roenxi wrote: post #675
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Infrastructure was mostly built in Eisenhower's era, not FDR's. Helping Soviets during WWII was a major mistake and it can be personally attributed to FDR - a radical leftist - himself. Many people around him advised him of the dangers of helping Commies. U.S. should have ignored Soviet-German war. Then finish Commies with nukes.

> Then finish Commies with nukes. If they'd done that they'd be down in history as worse than the worst of communism. It was bad enough that they dropped 2 on the Japanese which scores American civilisation a questionable footnote in the history books. "Only people to use a weapon this terrible". The problem with unprincipled aggression is that, sooner or later, other people match it. The US ended up doing much bette…

But that is the point! Get rid of everyone who wasn't friendly/under control, who could match it. Thus achieving worldwide democracy for all nations who could support it immediately, and unlimited time to get everyone who can't, prepared (with potentially unlimited violence applied to force them to). Achieve a sustainable hegemony.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by unitol »

foldr wrote: post #695
unitol wrote: post #689

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This is about every female-only space, not just bathrooms. Consider prisons, for example. There have been many cases recently of male criminals being transferred to the female prison estate, on the basis of their self-declared so-called "female gender identity", who have then raped and in some cases impregnated women incarcerated with them. It should be obvious that the same risk is not present from other female pris…

You’re assuming that most women would rather share bathrooms with trans men than with trans women. I suspect that were these mad ideas ever to be fully implemented in practice, we’d find that that was not in fact their revealed preference. The truth is that most of the people currently stirring up a moral panic around gender are barely even aware of the existence of trans men and simply haven’t thought this through p…

It's a reasonable assumption that most women prefer to share female spaces with other women, regardless of how they look, and not with male intruders who have decided to disregard women's boundaries for their own pleasure while falsely identifying themselves as women.
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