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Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by edanm »

volleyball wrote: post #615
settrans wrote: post #446

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Controversial, as in almost certainly made up anti-Israel propaganda? Ryan McBeth presents his thoughtful analysis and debunking here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8HWJ2v0R6k

Why is the current finance minister of Israel engaging in "almost certainly made up anti-Israel propaganda"? https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-seeks-to-calm-waters-wi... The article talks about his a speech he made in Paris in March of 2023 in which he calls Palestinians a made-up people. The podium he is speaking from features a map of Israel that includes Jordanian and Syrian territory. Israel is literally invad…

Because to (imo) Israel's great shame, its current finance minister is a right-wing extremist with very little support among the electorate, but unfortunately a very elevated position in the government because of Netanyahu's political necessities.

His view doesn't come close to representing the majority Israeli view; I'm fairly certain that in most surveys these days he gets literally 0 seats in the Israeli Knesset.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by edanm »

mouse_ wrote: post #185
siltcakes wrote: post #15

Carter was the most pro-Palestinian president of the 20th century. It's worth reading his book Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine:_Peace_Not_Apartheid

You're telling me this guy wrote a whole book urging "Free Palestine" in 2006? I did not know that, thanks.

I don't think that's an accurate summary of his book, no. (Not given the usual meaning of the phrase, at least.)

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by unitol »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #656
unitol wrote: post #639

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> The trans topic is a wedge issue that has absolutely no impact on 99% of people. The idea of "gender identity" as based on a subjective inner sense of self, and that "gender identity" must supersede sex, fundamentally reframes a core characteristic of the entire human population. When implemented in law and policy, this affects everyone. The impact is mostly on women and girls, for whom female-only spaces are essen…

"The impact is mostly on women and girls, for whom female-only spaces are essential for their safety and dignity." This is an inherently self-contradictory position, because it implies that trans men must be forced into women's spaces.

I don't see how this is a self-contradictory position. Women who've decided to call themselves men are in fact still women.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by genman »

anon7000 wrote: post #527
genman wrote: post #497

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It is similarly the indigenous land of the Palestinians.

Like Americans and Canadians are not indigenous people of Northern America and Australians are not indigenous people of Australia, they are not. Arabs in Palestine are descendants of colonizers and settlers enabled by the colonial powers.

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Post by genman »

aprilthird2021 wrote: post #562
genman wrote: post #497

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But Israel has created the need for Palestinian Arabs to have a separate nation by leaving them nationless by defining their nation as belonging to a specific ethnicity. Anyone can tell you Israel cannot have an Arab majority. That's fundamentally missing from your example. There were no stateless Germans living in Czechia

The problem with Germans in Czechia was their hostility toward Czech. This heightened with the Nazi occupation. They also didn't become "nationless" as they got German citizenship. The everlasting Palestinian refugee crisis is especially created by UN by creating the UNRWA and inheritable Palestinian refugee status instead of demanding other Arab states to give them citizenship. It is not a problem created by Israel, they just have to deal with it somehow.

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Post by InsideOutSanta »

unitol wrote: post #663
InsideOutSanta wrote: post #656

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"The impact is mostly on women and girls, for whom female-only spaces are essential for their safety and dignity." This is an inherently self-contradictory position, because it implies that trans men must be forced into women's spaces.

I don't see how this is a self-contradictory position. Women who've decided to call themselves men are in fact still women.

Your position is that this is about protecting women's spaces and making them feel safe and dignified.

Your position is also that somebody like Buck Angel must use the women's bathroom, because he is "in fact still a woman."

My assertion is that this is contradictory, because forcing somebody like Buck Angel to use the womens' bathroom will make women and girls feel less safe, not more.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by braza »

As a Brazilian I admire how some Americans here in the thread can say great things and passages about their presidents, regardless of the mistakes made and political party.

Democracies are never perfect but I strongly believe that having something to say about a president it’s a great sign of a health democracy and institution (in this case POTUS).

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by prettyStandard »

FillardMillmore wrote: post #53

My favorite Carter story was when he was out on a fishing boat and there was a swamp rabbit that aggressively approached his boat. Carter used his paddle to shoo it away. He told his advisers about it, but they didn't believe him. But a White House photographer was taking pictures of the trip at the time and captured the rabbit in the picture. Of course, the press blew it out of proportion and used it to mock/attack…

Not to nit pick, a better term you are looking for is "headcannon" as in "my headcannon is that the 'killer rabbit' in that movie was the same rabbit that went after Carter in his fishing boat."

I think I will be telling people this about the Holy Grail from now on...

RIP Jimmy

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Post by anonu »

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It represents the road not taken. Reagan removed solar panels.

Sort of. They had to replace the roof, and they didn't reinstall them. (they were also not "solar panels" it was solar water heating and it was sorta useful but mostly symbolic).

No the Carter solar panels were electric and not solar thermal.

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Post by potato3732842 »

Naijoko wrote: post #245
linguae wrote: post #68

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For these reasons, Jimmy Carter is my third-favorite president of the 20th century, behind my favorite, Calvin Coolidge, and my second-favorite, Dwight Eisenhower. I am a very big fan of Paul Volcker and I’m glad Jimmy Carter nominated him as chair of the Fed. I wish Reagan kept Volcker as chair during Reagan’s second term.

How did Lyndon B Johnson not make your list? Beside the Vietname war he seems like the best President for innerpolitics.

I'm no fan of Johnson but he gets way too much blame for Vietnam and Kennedy doesn't get near enough.
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