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Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by bb88 »

wbl wrote: post #203
Terr_ wrote: post #187

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Over in Washington, the Hanford nuclear site is a big demonstration that we haven't really solved the holistic problems of nuclear waste. (Technical, financial, legal, political.) Even just trying to ship it elsewhere for processing gets blocked by other states and cities.

The Hanford site could be solved with a bunch of cement but we promised to restore. Now of course we don't dump waste the same way.

That's the joke with the 3-eyed fish on the Simpsons: "It's all fine. You're supposed to be okay with nuclear waste in your environment."

I kinda want to get this Simpson's Jersey with a 3-eyed fish as the mascot that says Hanford or something on the back of it. I was thinking it should say maybe CESIUM 137 on the back.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/373450099460

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by bdangubic »

distortionfield wrote: post #255
Salgat wrote: post #83

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What's frustrating is that a few years ago a recession was predicted, and we avoided that. But no one seems to have even mentioned it during the election. Am I just misremembering this? At least in the tech sector, lots of layoffs seemed to be attributed to the coming downturn.

Right? Biden actually pulled off a soft landing and got inflation under control. Just couldn’t land that messaging by the time it mattered.

messaging is hard when prices never went down… you can’t send economist/finacial times article explaining what biden was able to pull of (albeit the raising deficit) to a farmer in oklahoma who is paying 80% more for his groceries…

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by [deleted] »

thomassmith65 wrote: post #249
rayiner wrote: post #99

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Restricting immigration is a long term investment in America’s future. The golden age Americans remember from the mid 20th century is partly the result of the 1924 immigration act, which cut the foreign born population from almost 15% to under 5% by the 1960s. As relevant here Carter proposed to make it unlawful to hire illegal immigrants and to impose penalties on companies that did so: https://library.cqpress.com/c…

Soon after that act passed, America experienced the worst economic depression in its history. That seems inconvenient for the argument.

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Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by JasserInicide »

devin wrote: post #252
bdangubic wrote: post #198

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that is because in america a large majority of people’s entire identity is tied to one of the two political parties. there are no liberals who believe is small government and state’s rights, no conservatives who believe in woman’s rights or that america would collapse without immigrants… for majority of people every single opinion and thought they have just magically lines up with one political party - maaaagic… henc…

The current infighting between republicans over H1Bs seems a counterexample.

Republicans have always been pro-immigrant because it's inherently pro-business. They just have to do a song and dance routine for the low IQ racist cohort of their constituency to make it seem like they're tough on it. Though I will say it's been rather amusing watching people act betrayed by Elon's thoughts on H1-B visa holders. Like, how did you idiots not see this coming? He's the richest person in the world for a reason. Plus he's an immigrant.

Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by alex_young »

yyyk wrote: post #182
jmclnx wrote: post #20

Looking back, to me he was a much better president then people believed in the 80s. I believe if he got re-elected in 1980, the US would be in a much better place. One thing, it could be argued real work on Climate Change would have begun in 1981 as opposed to where we are now, which is just watching the average probably blowing past 3C in around 70 years from now. For his loss in 1980, I still blame Kennedy. RIP, he…

>it could be argued real work on Climate Change would have begun in 1981 as opposed to where we are now That's a common myth. 70s energy policy was a result of the oil crisis, not environment concerns. Sometimes the result was conductive to the environment (e.g. efficiency increases), sometimes it was less so (various US gov research into more polluting alternatives like synthetic oil or shale oil), and sometimes it…

The Environmental Protection Agency was started by Richard Nixon in 1970.

The clean air act was in 1967.

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Post by brailsafe »

jdewerd wrote: post #174
bdndndndbve wrote: post #125

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FDR doesn't make the cut?

Oh, he only busted the Great Depression, won WWII, built half of the infrastructure that we keep kicking the expiration date on, and negotiated 80% of the beneficial fine print in your employment contract. Don't you think he could have done a bit more? My list would be: 1. FDR, 2. Carter, 3. Teddy. Carter because he sacrificed his career to fix inflation (Republican attempts to rewrite history notwithstanding), and T…

> won WWII

or so Hollywood would have us believe

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Post by rayiner »

olddustytrail wrote: post #226
akaru wrote: post #120

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Something tells me you can’t believe this nonsense you’re spewing. You’re attributing the greatest economic boom the world has ever seen, not to being the sole winner and survivor of WWII, but because the borders were tightened. You must be a troll.

He's not joking. He's an immigrant himself. There is often the "pulling up the ladder" attitude from the ones who think they "deserved" their entry.

Not at all! I think it’s worse for the country to import foreign elites, like my family, than low skill workers. Foreign elites are the people most responsible for the dysfunction in their home countries.

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Post by doodwut »

bdangubic wrote: post #230
lapcat wrote: post #214

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> For his loss in 1980, I still blame Kennedy. I still blame Carter for killing single-payer health care. Almost 50 years later, we're still stuffering from that. Consider the recent murder of the United executive, and the public glee over it. The public despises our current health care system. Of course Obama had the chance to remedy the situation but instead chose to give government subsidies to the very health ins…

The public despises our current health care system. if this is true, “the public” has a very funny way of showing that. you just mention a different health care system to 1/2 of this country and see where that takes you (will guess you will hear socialism during those rants…) :)

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Post by raegis »

syndicatedjelly wrote: post #196
macrocosmos wrote: post #76

I wasn’t alive for Carter’s presidency, so can someone explain how his handling of the hostages in Iran was positive at all for the United States? To me as an American even this many years later and as a young person who didn’t see it, ending your presidency while another nation holds your citizens seems extremely embarrassing. And all I see is extreme praise of the man. I’d honestly like to see some discussion here.

Why does being alive in the 1970s qualify someone to speak intelligently on that subject?

It can be one of many factors. Most of the criticism of Carter I hear from younger people is the same old "worst president ever, except for the Camp David Accords" trope I've been hearing for 40 years. None can ever explain why. On the other hand, Carter haters my age and older give detailed explanations of their distaste for him. (I'm not saying their explanations are sound, but they do give them.)
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