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Re: Jimmy Carter has died

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Post by sthuck »

bb88 wrote: post #96

His main achievement was and forever will be the Egypt/Israel peace agreement. This has lasted nearly 50 years, and the people who still have grievances will soon be dead in another few years.

look the peace is definitely an achievement and much much better than the alternative. But it's incredibly fragile peace held only the Egyptian Army control and Sisi's dictatorship.

Most of the population still despises Israel, another revolution in Egypt and its a matter of time until there is another war. Now with western equipment for both sides!

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Post by devin »

bdangubic wrote: post #198
llm_trw wrote: post #188

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that is because in america a large majority of people’s entire identity is tied to one of the two political parties. there are no liberals who believe is small government and state’s rights, no conservatives who believe in woman’s rights or that america would collapse without immigrants… for majority of people every single opinion and thought they have just magically lines up with one political party - maaaagic… henc…

The current infighting between republicans over H1Bs seems a counterexample.

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Post by CalChris »

lisper wrote: post #215
bwanab wrote: post #157

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I lived in the Knoxville/Oak Ridge TN area at the time. Under Carter the TVA had built full working house demonstrations of solar, geothermal, and passive cooling homes. They were all cancelled shortly after the 80 election.

> I lived in the Knoxville/Oak Ridge TN area at the time Hey, so did I! ORHS class of '82. Maybe we met back in the day?

My dad worked for TVA (in Knoxville) on their nuclear plants. I got a tour of Oak Ridge including a test reactor where you could look into a reactor core … through about 20 feet of flowing water, an early unforgettable blue.

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Post by bdangubic »

raegis wrote: post #233
amazingamazing wrote: post #117

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I consider an endorsement more of the rationale for why, personally.

I think telling everyone you wish to live long enough to vote for Kamala Harris is a pretty firm endorsement.

I also do not understand who gives a shit about endorsements?! there has never been an endorsement that swayed any election, freaking every person that has shaken a hand or been in the same room with DJT (not to mention every person that has ever worked with him including ones he handpicked for highest positions in his previous administration) endorsed Harris… the endorsement charade needs to stop in America, it is the one of the stupiest things there is

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Post by distortionfield »

Salgat wrote: post #83
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #56

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I’m really worried that we just elected a president who clearly fixates on short term gains rather than long term planning. Biden did not mess that up, even if he is a one term president like Carter. It is nice to have adults in control, even if that is increasingly politically untenable.

What's frustrating is that a few years ago a recession was predicted, and we avoided that. But no one seems to have even mentioned it during the election. Am I just misremembering this? At least in the tech sector, lots of layoffs seemed to be attributed to the coming downturn.

Right? Biden actually pulled off a soft landing and got inflation under control. Just couldn’t land that messaging by the time it mattered.

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Post by sangnoir »

kamikazeturtles wrote: post #9

Of all the presidents I've seen in my lifetime, I think President Carter might be the only one who felt genuine and didn't exhibit narcissism.

> I think President Carter might be the only one who felt genuine and didn't exhibit narcissism.

He was the opposite of narcissistic, he was honest to a fault, telling the truth even when it was unflattering to his public image: he freely admitted - and without direct prompting - in a Playboy interview that he had looked at a lot of women (other than his wife) with lust[1].

1. WARNING - site is on a Playboy domain - you may not want to open this on a work computer or have any anti-NSFW mononitoring of your browser activity. https://www.playboy.com/read/playboy-interview-jimmy-carter/

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Post by rayiner »

rat87 wrote: post #148
rayiner wrote: post #99

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Restricting immigration is a long term investment in America’s future. The golden age Americans remember from the mid 20th century is partly the result of the 1924 immigration act, which cut the foreign born population from almost 15% to under 5% by the 1960s. As relevant here Carter proposed to make it unlawful to hire illegal immigrants and to impose penalties on companies that did so: https://library.cqpress.com/c…

America is a nation of immigrants. Xenophobic politics is stupid and makes us weaker.

Incorrect. The U.S. was created by British settlers. The “operating system” of the country—everything from the legal system to the prevailing norms at elite institutions—remains Anglo-American, and has virtually nothing from any other culture.

Immigration has provided cheap labor, but at the cost of degrading our social and political systems. Irish and Italian immigration, for example, destroyed the founders’ vision of self governance and replaced it with political machines that mobile masses of low information immigrants to legitimize top-down authoritarian systems.

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Post by distortionfield »

xrd wrote: post #80
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #56

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I’m really worried that we just elected a president who clearly fixates on short term gains rather than long term planning. Biden did not mess that up, even if he is a one term president like Carter. It is nice to have adults in control, even if that is increasingly politically untenable.

You said it better than I would have. Biden put a lot of smart people around him, and together they made many long term investments in states that overwhelmingly voted for Trump. He will be remembered differently than he is now.

The CHIPS act is going to be his legacy. That and the infra bill, I think. That bill is responsible for several bridges in my area getting much needed attention from what I understand.

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Post by maratc »

eesmith wrote: post #193
maratc wrote: post #124

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By announcing a complete vaporware known as SDI, while making a good impression it was very real, Reagan hinted at the possibility of changing the balance of power squarely to the American favor. The Soviets could not afford losing that balance, and they bought the Star Wars story -- hook, line and sinker -- so they went down the path of developing a similar system, and by doing so diverted even more money from the w…

"developing a similar system"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiative#R... says: > In 2014, a declassified CIA paper stated that "In response to SDI, Moscow threatened a variety of military countermeasures in lieu of developing a parallel missile defense system". The Soviets had very capable scientists who could figure out - like Bethe in the US - that SDI was not feasible, and the easy work-aroun…

I’m sorry if I wasn’t clear: I’m not advocating for this viewpoint (nor against it, actually); I’m just explaining how this “line of thinking” usually goes, since that was a question from GP.

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Post by Eavolution »

FillardMillmore wrote: post #53

My favorite Carter story was when he was out on a fishing boat and there was a swamp rabbit that aggressively approached his boat. Carter used his paddle to shoo it away. He told his advisers about it, but they didn't believe him. But a White House photographer was taking pictures of the trip at the time and captured the rabbit in the picture. Of course, the press blew it out of proportion and used it to mock/attack…

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