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I automated my job application process

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Re: I automated my job application process

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Post by chgs »

throwaway48476 wrote: post #574
the_snooze wrote: post #415

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>They tended to be small and didn’t have the resources to put together reservations (and would have taken months to figure out budgeting situations) This makes no sense. If they can't afford a one-off line item like travel arrangements, how can they possibly make payroll reliably? You're describing either a company with no financial buffer, or one that's asking prospective applicants to subsidize them.

To be honest the DC intern economy runs on rich parents willing to subsidize their kids rubbing shoulders with power.

This is a completely separate problem. Not as bad as in the U.K. but you still have the situation where wages low down in many industries are so poor you can’t afford to take the job unless your parents subsidise you (either they live close enough to give you free housing or they pay your rent for the first 5 years)

Once you “make it” then you have your six figure salary and are good to go.

This is by design to ensure the right people get the jobs.

Re: I automated my job application process

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Post by shortrounddev2 »

teeray wrote: post #57

It’s astounding that we, as an industry, are so averse to licensing developers. It solves the resume spam problem and the repetitive LeetCode round(s) that every company now wants. We also don’t have to settle for the licensing process other industries have—ours can be more inclusive of alternative development backgrounds, while still providing a meaningful quality filter.

Licenses should only ever be used to protect consumers. Abusing licenses to protect a labor class is a 10th century solution and is absolutely immoral

Re: I automated my job application process

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Post by randomNumber7 »

zero-sharp wrote: post #338
randomNumber7 wrote: post #329

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If you can't stand out from an LLM then why can't it do your job? Also, not using LLMs might be a red flag. I wouldn't want a dev that is not open to this technology...

>If you can't stand out from an LLM then why can't it do your job? I downvoted your post because this is a complete nonsequitur.

That is so mean. I actually cried for 5 minutes.

Re: I automated my job application process

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Post by DavidDodda »

thomasfromcdnjs wrote: post #562

Cross posting a comment I left --- Just wanted to share that I've been working on a schema for job descriptions. https://jsonresume.org/job-description-schema I released about 6 months ago, hopefully some of the models use it in their training data. So you can just say "make an example JD, return it in the jsonresume job schema" --- Just realized I should call it jsonjob or something

man, thank you for this comment!

I have been using reactive resume for sometime now, but never know it was built on this standard.

you actually saved a lot of research time from my next project!

Re: I automated my job application process

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Post by Traubenfuchs »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #582
Traubenfuchs wrote: post #27

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Hiring and placement agencies that do prescreenings and provide CVs in standardized formats to employers and them getting paid according to how much salary the hire will get. win-win-win situation for every party, they got me my last two jobs in Vienna

I work in an industry where this practice is universal. That said, why don't more of these companies complaining on this thread try that model? I know the reason: Cost. Instead of wasted hours of their staff's time, they are faced with a realistically large bill that most managers would like to deny. For me, head hunters find me on LinkedIn.

Well, those companies can‘t have it that bad if they rather wade through 1000‘s of fake/ai/mismatched CVs and other slop themselves.

The costs will diffuse through a mix of incompetent inhouse HR and already overworked seniors and leads that now need to waste time on hiring.

Re: I automated my job application process

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Post by iamacyborg »

casenmgreen wrote: post #210
salomon812 wrote: post #131

I'm a software manager that has been doing some form of interviewing/hiring for 13 years. I did two rounds of hiring software engineers last year, one in spring that seemed normal, and one in the fall that was was brutal. The fall hiring had a flood of applicants, and in retrospect, most seemed like AI was used in some way. For the fall round, I suddenly had a higher percentage of applicants that qualified after resu…

Speaking as a contractor since 2017, I have given up using recruitment agencies in the UK to find work. I am likely the number one expert, in my field, globally. I apply for roles which specifically ask for an SME in my field. There is no question here of skills, and it is as certain as it can be without actually knowing that I am a light year ahead of all other applicants (because there is practically no one else ac…

The UK job market is pretty screwy.

I got made redundant back in March, applied for a bunch of stuff I matched profile for and maybe got 5-6 interviews off the back of it.

The worst was the agency that lined me up for a contract role, got me to fill out all the paperwork only for the job to fall through because the client apparently never got budget signed off for the position.

Re: I automated my job application process

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Post by slig »

frizlab wrote: post #379
krapp wrote: post #350

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Because for some weird reason it tends to work.

Has this been properly analyzed?

Have a look at this analysis by @minimaxir about offering tips to LLMs: https://minimaxir.com/2024/02/chatgpt-tips-analysis/

Re: I automated my job application process

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Post by [deleted] »

MrMember wrote: post #314

I'm seeing a lot of back in forth in the comments between hiring managers and employees discussing who is more responsible for the current situation, but from the perspective of someone looking for a job what should I be doing? I've been pretty aggressively looking for a job for the past six months or so. I have 10+ years of professional software dev experience so I've mostly been looking at senior dev positions. I h…

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Re: I automated my job application process

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Post by DecoySalamander »

roenxi wrote: post #406
celdon25 wrote: post #386

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Anyone affected by this and in the US might consider calling or writing to their congressman. The time to do that is now when the demand is high to bolster jobs but low for excessive laws. Nobody innocent is going to be wronged if this is made into a crime or otherwise regulated to put a stop to. The fake job applicants are only siphoning resources from the economy at the high expense of all other parties involved. T…

If I didn't know better I'd think this was satire. As far as I can tell the advocacy is for either companies to be empowered to sue people who apply to work with them (seems like madness) or to set up a situation where the government enforcement arm pro-actively goes out and harasses unemployed job seekers. Either way that sounds like a recipe for disaster for unemployed persons.

> situation where the government enforcement arm pro-actively goes out and harasses unemployed job seekers

Why wouldn't this be a desired outcome? Unemployment doesn't give a carte blanche to send spam.

Re: I automated my job application process

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Post by [deleted] »

MrMember wrote: post #314

I'm seeing a lot of back in forth in the comments between hiring managers and employees discussing who is more responsible for the current situation, but from the perspective of someone looking for a job what should I be doing? I've been pretty aggressively looking for a job for the past six months or so. I have 10+ years of professional software dev experience so I've mostly been looking at senior dev positions. I h…

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