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Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Post by coding123 » Sat, Dec 28, 2024, 9:32 PM UTC

TypingOutBugs wrote: post #180

w4ffl35 wrote: post #97

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What should be illegal, specifically? What concrete action should be made illegal? These are people hired locally within their respective countries by local corporations owned by holdings in the US. How can you make it illegal for a company to hire people legally in other countries through their legal non-US incorporations?

I just think start with the moral issue first. Then legal experts can craft logic around that.

Basically, if an unemployed American that can write React code, that person should have a job before any H1B (or remotely hired person) at the same level, same remoteness status, etc... If all the Americans are hired, then H1B levels (and remote work Indians) may rise again.

I might have a larger shot at getting a job right now if I literally move to India and get in with one of these programming shops. Of course I won't participate in the night-time scamming operation of US grandparents.

By the way I'm half Indian

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Post by w4ffl35 » Sat, Dec 28, 2024, 9:32 PM UTC

bruce511 wrote: post #254

w4ffl35 wrote: post #97

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I think it suks that your job got lost to a foreign worker. It's certainly no consolation that you are merely the latest casualty of globalization, along with your US manufacturing workers. I say that sincerely- losing your job suks. Of course the root of the problem, for you and steel workers, US that American consumers care more about money than where something is sourced. They buy the cheapest car, cheapest steel,…

> Social Security and Medicare are unpopular to cut, but its easily done, and a necessity to make significant cuts. I think the electorate has given a mandate to the govt to do this, do I expect they'll do it. (Trump campaigned on this, so its pretty much what people clearly want.)

Can you please point me to Trump campaigning on this? I heard him say the exact opposite repeatedly in his speeches at his rallies.

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Post by _l7dh » Sat, Dec 28, 2024, 9:32 PM UTC

Great comments and insights. Thanks to everybody for being constructive. I am also going through the same situation, but in Europe. Despite having a PhD in Machine Learning, somehow I cannot even get to the interviews. I am suspecting it might stupidly have to do with my LaTeX-generated CV which gets desk-rejected by badly design CV screening systems… anyone else sharing my suspicion?

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Post by istorical » Sat, Dec 28, 2024, 9:33 PM UTC

dddrh wrote: post #173

Adding a topline response echoing the same thing. Been on the job hunt since October 1, and have done hundreds of applications, yet only spoken to 3 companies, and made it past the hiring manager once. I’m a technical product manager with 10+ years and most recently was head of product at a healthtech company. It seems like none of my experience or background matters for the initial screen. The most frustrating part…

Have you tried just saying you're a product manager instead of technical product manager? In my experience small changes in storytelling and self-marketing can create giant shifts in how you are perceived.

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Post by melbourne_mat » Sat, Dec 28, 2024, 9:35 PM UTC

skillissuz wrote: post #215

irvingprime wrote: post #209

The longest period of unemployment I've ever experienced ended about 6 months ago. I was unemployed for 11 months. The company that finally hired me was intentionally targeting people with lots of experience. I have that. They also pay less than I used to make but I took it because I needed a job. Previous to that period of unemployment, my resume tended to get noticed. I got interviews from 3 applications out of 5.…

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Maybe it's a cultural thing but to me this comes across as racist

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Post by bdangubic » Sat, Dec 28, 2024, 9:35 PM UTC

throwaway48476 wrote: post #287

nickff wrote: post #149

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One problem with hiring juniors (from an employer perspective) is that they take a while to get trained up, then leave after 1-3 years, meaning that they require investment which never gets paid back. You can argue that the company should give them raises to keep them, but it goes against the zeitgeist (so it’s tough), and also means that there’s no advantage to hiring juniors. This seems like a stable (though undesi…

It's short sighted. Eventually the seniors will retire and die off. It very much feels like 'we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas'.

seniors will retire or die off is what is short-sighted. I have been a senior for the past 10 years and am planning on hacking another 10-15, don’t need money any longer, just love what I do. 60% of just my team is the same (give or take few years)

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Post by FreakLegion » Sat, Dec 28, 2024, 9:37 PM UTC

vbi8iBEX wrote: post #284

stickfigure wrote: post #226

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Have you considered that the bitterness that drips out of your posts here might be part of the reason you're having trouble finding work? Half the interview (ideally) measures technical competence. The other half is "would I like to work with this person?" I don't know what you're like in person, but if I looked you up and found your HN comment history, you'd be a no hire. Sorry.

> Have you considered that the bitterness that drips out of your posts here might be part of the reason you're having trouble finding work? Bitterness? Have you considered that you're reading my posts wrong? Having a different political opinion than you does not equate to bitterness. No - I'm not bitter at all. And as I've made quite clear on linkedin, I want nothing to do with an employer who tries to strong arm me…

"No - I'm not bitter at all."

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42533933

"Having worked for a startup and lost my job to remote workers in a foreign country because they were cheaper and being told "we can hire 3 or 4 of them for the price of you" has left a bitter taste in my mouth."

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Post by w4ffl35 » Sat, Dec 28, 2024, 9:37 PM UTC

layer8 wrote: post #214

w4ffl35 wrote: post #133

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Not sure what TOS you are referring to, but regarding downvotes maybe you should read the top comment on: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36673613

Guess things have changed on this site.

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Post by brianwawok » Sat, Dec 28, 2024, 9:38 PM UTC

w4ffl35 wrote: post #165

brianwawok wrote: post #157

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Then make this choice when you own a company. What % of your paycheck are you willing to donate to being pro America?

> Then make this choice when you own a company Absolutely I would. > What % of your paycheck are you willing to donate to being pro America? This is a tu quoque logical fallacy. I'll cross that bridge if and when I come to it, but I can tell you that I'd rather take a pay cut than hire a foreigner.

Great! Then I encourage you to do so. And then after you do, we can come back and you can tell us how company X should do Y. Otherwise you are just sitting there complaining when you would likely do the same thing given the same choices.

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Post by atrettel » Sat, Dec 28, 2024, 9:38 PM UTC

throwawayhn2024 wrote: post #73

I was let go from my last job. Also no CS degree. Had no LinkedIn either (deleted years ago). Had to create a resume from scratch. The only thing I had was about a decade of experience. I started by creating a resume and LinkedIn and aggressively optimized both as much as possible. Using a ATS checker I found online, I got a score of 96 for my resume after numerous changes (29 changes after a few weeks). I started ap…

I have to second the general notion that this is a numbers game. My own statistics right now show that for every 100 applications, I get 12 applications with at least one interview, and 3.5 applications with an offer. Those numbers are not great but statistically, if you apply to enough jobs, you can see that you have a good shot of getting at least one offer. Of course, that may require hundreds of hours of work. But if you calculate the odds yourself, you can see there is an end in sight, even if it is quite far away.