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Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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post #189

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do you feel that employers in your home country should also follow this rubric?

I'm afraid I don't understand what rubric you're talking of. Are you asking me whether employers across the world should read HN? Or is that an autocorrect typo for "rule"? If the latter, yes, certainly. My last two employers had to hire US and Canadian developers anyway just to be able to sell to the US/Canada, so I guess it's already the case.

a rubric is a general rule, template, or standard yes

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And we see PG talking up H1B on twitter. I'd like to think that if he still read HN he might not do that. Really companies should be banned from importing more people[1] if they laid off a certain number in the last year. That way the job market would be more likely to self correct. [1] I think they should still be allowed to hire people who are already in the country on a visa, as it's unfair to make their risk of b…

IMO the main issue with H1B is that it makes it harder for them to move. This reduces their ability to negotiate salaries which ultimately drives the equilibrium price for everyone down.

This is why unions in Europe often end up in two seemingly contradicting (but not really) positions regarding labour immigration. One is to try to limit it, and the other is to ensure that the immigrants gets as strong rights as possible if they are allowed in.

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Yes, this is what everybody I know is experiencing right now.

Caveat lector: This is simply a retelling of my personal experience, YMMV. This is not advice.

What has consistently worked for me: I stopped applying for jobs, and redirected all that effort into creating and publishing open source projects that demonstrate competence in the areas of work I want. And, just as importantly, I contribute to big established open source projects in those areas too.

I did not apply for my current job (started 6 months ago): they solicited me, based on my open source work. All the best jobs I've had have been like that, this is the 3rd time it worked.

When I'm unemployed, I only apply for jobs I actually want, typically spending an hour each on 0-2 extremely targeted applications per week. But I treat churning out new open source stuff as my full time job until somebody notices. In addition to successfully landing me three great jobs over the past decade, this approach has made me a much much better programmer.

Also, I strongly believe spending hours a day writing new code will enhance your ability to pass technical interviews much more than gamified garbage like leetcode.

A huge part of making this work is not living a typical valley lifestyle: I plan my life around the median national salary for a software engineer, and when I'm making more than that it all goes straight into my savings. In the bay, that requires living frugally (by bay standards...), but I can't even begin to put into words how grateful I am to past-decade-me for living like that and giving today-me the freedom to turn down the bad jobs and wait for the good ones. Obviously, I don't have children.

I do a lot more open source than a typical programmer in the valley, but I don't think I'm "exceptional" in any sense: you just have to put in the work. I do feel like I was very lucky to start my career in an extremely open-source-centric role, and in fairness that gives me a leg up here which I am probably inclined to underestimate.

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Have you considered that the bitterness that drips out of your posts here might be part of the reason you're having trouble finding work? Half the interview (ideally) measures technical competence. The other half is "would I like to work with this person?" I don't know what you're like in person, but if I looked you up and found your HN comment history, you'd be a no hire. Sorry.

> Have you considered that the bitterness that drips out of your posts here might be part of the reason you're having trouble finding work?

Bitterness? Have you considered that you're reading my posts wrong? Having a different political opinion than you does not equate to bitterness. No - I'm not bitter at all.

And as I've made quite clear on linkedin, I want nothing to do with an employer who tries to strong arm me out of my freedom of speech and expression, so I wouldn't work for the likes of you.

> I don't know what you're like in person

Correct you don't. I'm awesome.

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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> Elon Musk and others claim there is an engineer shortage and we must increase the number of H-1B visas in order to fill this gap There is a shortage of engineers who are willing to work cheap, and to be much more tolerant of shitty working conditions because getting fired = getting deported.

Not just cheap, but excessive hours. People like musk don’t want someone that works 8 hours a day and goes home. He wants someone that works and lives to work.

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post #182

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do you feel that employers in your home country should also follow this rubric?

Software ones? Absolutely. Companies selling physical goods lead to a decent amount of jobs in every country they operate in by definition. Not so for software. It is US big tech who has for a decade or 2 reaped enormous benefits from extracting large sums of money from non-US economies while contributing near-zero back to those economies (often not just near-zero but straight up deeply negative amounts due to extern…

what does that have to do with whether US employers should prioritize non-US labor?

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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Low pay offers. In Montreal there are plenty of offers paying ~90k CAD/year ( 62k USD/year ) for 15+ years of experience. There are lot of job listings in Montreal, and those positions are real. Problem is that the pay makes those positions undesirable. The second problem is that no one hires junior developers. My friend's kid finishing CS studies in May 2025 and prospect for jobs are not good.

One problem with hiring juniors (from an employer perspective) is that they take a while to get trained up, then leave after 1-3 years, meaning that they require investment which never gets paid back. You can argue that the company should give them raises to keep them, but it goes against the zeitgeist (so it’s tough), and also means that there’s no advantage to hiring juniors. This seems like a stable (though undesi…

It's short sighted. Eventually the seniors will retire and die off. It very much feels like 'we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas'.

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post #203

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There is a shortage of American workers willing to work for internationally competitive salaries. This is similar in Europe, by the way. Industry associations claim that there is a shortage of skilled workers, whereas in reality there is only a shortage of skilled workers willing to work for low-ish salaries. On the other hand, paying everyone higher salaries across the board would have its own economic consequences.

I’m not sure that’s accurate. The primary complaint I see (and also have) is applying to hundreds of jobs and not even getting a screening call. Haven’t seen many complaints about lowball offers.

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And it's not just in programming-related jobs either. Parts of industry and the blue collar market are shitting themselves in Germany right now. Two people I know have been let go (pumps and wood sectors resp.). Another (metal construction) is getting barely more than minimum wage. There's only one dude (chemical engineer) who is doing well (nearing 100k at 5 years work experience). The others are getting by. Politic…

On the other hand, craftsmen are in high demand and make good money, but not too many people seem to be keen on that kind of career.

You hear this or that in Germany. Demand yes, pay meh.

It's probably true if you own the company, but there's also disgruntled folks who apparently got treated like shit during their apprenticeship and who snicker at their former employers or dissuade would-be prospects when their field isn't doing well (boohoo poor Porsche drivers) or when they try to advertise a craft. At least the YT comments under several blue collar documentaries/adverts say so, but I know none personally.

Then there's an ongoing crisis in construction due to widespread financing problems (need two decently paid full time earners, no kids, to afford it with some certainty and no 30+ year debt slavery at least around where I live) and assorted crafts.

An electrician friend is doing okay, but not exactly great, at barely more than 40k pre-tax per year. Another one who is farmer on the side (can't afford to live from it) makes about as much in his profession (mechanic). I.e. forget single earner family and/or mortgage.

It's difficult to gauge accurately, because statistics are complicated and/or shit and/or biased, the employment situation highly depends on region and field and things seem to be changing at a crazy pace, not least caused by the recent economic shocks (war, COVID, a decade+ of QE), problems with funding pensions/bad demography, increasing competition in core industries, high energy prices and political indecisiveness. How much each factor contributes remains a mystery to me. Wealth m/billionaires seem to be growing fine.

Personally I'm more and more convinced there's no conspiracy and things really are as bad... The Japanification of Germany. At least our debt isn't as high yet.

Re: Ask HN: Are you unable to find employment?

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post #179

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There is no right to globalism, and thus the US government isn't forcing companies to be globalist. Globalism is simply the inevitable result of capitalist incentives in the global marketplace, and the US has benefited greatly from it. Not all Americans, obviously, but certainly those that capitalism is intended to benefit (the capitalist class.) And I guess the petite-bougeousie of the American tech class is getting…

>inevitable result of incentives Market incentives are influenced by policies the US gov sets, so globalist capitalists monopolizing US markets is the inevitable result of US gov policies. Ever heard of Anti-trust laws? They could be updated for the global economy any time.

Banning all American companies from outsourcing or hiring foreigners would result in complete financial isolation, collapse and likely balkanization of the US, and ironically far worse employment prospects for Americans than currently exist. All modern Western capitalist power depends upon the exploitation of a foreign underclass.

Yes, theoretically, the US could pursue its own Sakoku as a suicidal policy of "nativist" self-reliance but the premise that they ever would is ridiculous. I know people in this thread couldn't care less, but policy is set by people who actually do.

Americans can compete with Indian, Chinese and Mexican labor when they're willing to work for Indian, Chinese and Mexican wages, end of.

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