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Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by lethibo »

codetrotter wrote: post #85
user_7832 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks a lot! There's a very reasonable chance is is anybox! (The app I was thinking about wasn't self hosted, sorry about the confusion.) I'll check archive.org to see what it looked like a few months/year ago. (The "clean" and simple name along with the landing page style is definitely similar.)

> The app I was thinking about wasn't self hosted, sorry about the confusion My wording was a bit confusing in how I said it, but what I meant to say was that like the one you were thinking of this one is also not self-hosted.

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Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by ReallyOldLurker »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #95
DanielBryars wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FYI: On the login, it tripped me up a couple of times because the username is case sensitive. There is a tradeoff between security, useability, and support requests; the input is labelled email, and email addresses are usually not case sensitive (and as email addresses used as email addresses are never case sensitive) so it confused me.

TiL. I always assumed emails were case sensitive, and doubly so if used as a username. I find it strange that you even discovered this 'wrong' behaviour on the site in question: you purposefully typed your email address with different casing when logging in vs. registering?

"I always assumed emails are case sensitive"

Wikipedia has a good summary on what is valid. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_address

From the second paragraph:

Although the standard requires the local-part to be case-sensitive,[1] it also urges that receiving hosts deliver messages in a case-independent manner,[2] e.g., that the mail system in the domain example.com treat John.Smith as equivalent to john.smith; some mail systems even treat them as equivalent to johnsmith.[3]

You'll find the footnote links at the Wikipedia article, I'm not going to paste the here. So yes, if my email address is my username, then I would expect it to work the same in uppercase or lowercase. If my username is "like an email address, but not an email address" then you make the rules for your site.

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by Groxx »

raybb wrote: post #26
elashri wrote: post #7

I tried hoarder and I didn't like the way listed view works. I prefer the simplicity of the view provided by Linkding. I find hoarder new auto tagging with ollama something I want to use because I am lazy. For references there are many options in selfhosted bookmarking apps market. These beside Hoarder are the most known software. Linkwarden ( https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden ) Shaarli ( https://github.com/sh…

When I use a tool like this one of the most important things is that it works offline so I can read something in a plane or on the go. I've looked into most of these (and instapaper, pocket, etc) and ultimately found Wallabag to be the best. However, their app is quite buggy and site is fairly clunky for my taste. Luckily there's a pretty recent 3rd party client that works offline super well and is on Mac/Linux/andro…

I've had wallabag on my radar for quite a while, but I keep ending up on "... but what even is it?".

Obviously it archives things for later reading. It works great for that on my e-reader, and I'm super glad it exists and KOReader supports it.

But the API[1] is largely undocumented and undescribed, so I'm kinda at a loss as to what the goals and possibilities are, because the app leaves quite a lot to be desired for e.g. replacing personal cataloguing on something Delicious-like. It seems tailor made for small, barely-customizable offline reading (save it for reading later, maybe with tags, then archive it and don't look at it again), despite the API apparently (maybe?) offering a lot more (but not describing it so it's hard to know how it's intended to be used).

Is there, like... documentation somewhere? Particularly with capabilities / intent / goals? I'm hesitant to sink much time into it without some idea of how it thinks of itself, building a bowl of Hyrum-slaw on top of a shaky foundation is no fun for anyone involved. If it's mostly just what the core app presents, it's probably not what I want.

[1]: https://app.wallabag.it/api/doc/ and https://doc.wallabag.org/developer/api/methods/

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by norswap »

Is there a way to import existing corpuses?

Thinking in particular of browser bookmark exports and Notion, I'm sure other people would like something else. Being able to parse any kind of text file for links would be great + full-text search in text files / markdown.

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by fivestones »

sowrabh wrote: post #93

I currently use Reader by Readwise for this purpose. 3 main things I look for in such an app are: 1. Ability to save everything including PDFs etc. 2. Ability to read offline 3. Some ability to summarize, send some reminders to read etc. are an added bonus. I'm not sure on the support for PDFs with hoarder-app, the github README doesn't seem to mention anything about it.

The first item in the feature list for Hoarder is “ Bookmark links, take simple notes and store images and pdfs.”

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by adr1an »

raybb wrote: post #26
elashri wrote: post #7

I tried hoarder and I didn't like the way listed view works. I prefer the simplicity of the view provided by Linkding. I find hoarder new auto tagging with ollama something I want to use because I am lazy. For references there are many options in selfhosted bookmarking apps market. These beside Hoarder are the most known software. Linkwarden ( https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden ) Shaarli ( https://github.com/sh…

When I use a tool like this one of the most important things is that it works offline so I can read something in a plane or on the go. I've looked into most of these (and instapaper, pocket, etc) and ultimately found Wallabag to be the best. However, their app is quite buggy and site is fairly clunky for my taste. Luckily there's a pretty recent 3rd party client that works offline super well and is on Mac/Linux/andro…

On a plane?, do you self-host in your laptop? Or is the client having a full copy of everything, incl. images?

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by raybb »

adr1an wrote: post #106
raybb wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I use a tool like this one of the most important things is that it works offline so I can read something in a plane or on the go. I've looked into most of these (and instapaper, pocket, etc) and ultimately found Wallabag to be the best. However, their app is quite buggy and site is fairly clunky for my taste. Luckily there's a pretty recent 3rd party client that works offline super well and is on Mac/Linux/andro…

On a plane?, do you self-host in your laptop? Or is the client having a full copy of everything, incl. images?

I don't self-host on a laptop but the client does save a lot offline including images. I assume it's just the "unread" content but I haven't actually looked into that.

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by UltraSane »

aeonik wrote: post #74
ninalanyon wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This would get out of hand quickly. Hierarchies get out of hand quickly too. You will soon find that different people (or the same person at different times) create different hierarchies for the same thing and that the same thing belongs in multiple places.

Polyhierarchies combined with RAG is the one true way.

That seems like a silly term for a Directed Acyclic Graph

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by UltraSane »

marban wrote: post #12

I've saved ~50k .webarchive files from Safari in a single folder, indexed via Spotlight — not an archivist's dream, but I'm a sucker for using anything in the OS stack.

How do you save them? I would love to save every page I go to automatically since storage is so cheap and between sites disappearing and the web being so huge it can be impossible to find something later.

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by on_the_train »

CRConrad wrote: post #91
on_the_train wrote: post #62

> with a touch of AI It's fascinating even to myself how fast I closed the tab. The annoyance and oversaturation with "ai" is on a level I didn't think was possible

But in this case, as I understood it, fully optional? (Maybe not, only read it rather cursorily.) So in that case, might be useful anyway. Otherwise, yeah, me too.

Optional mitigates, but doesn't completely null the poisoning. People are still very allergic to inclusion of crypto stuff in software (as another example), even if it's optional.
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