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Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by crazygringo »

wat10000 wrote: post #68
jiggawatts wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, I love how the Microsoft Azure SLA simply states that if they're down for "more than X hours in a month" then they will refund the cost of the service . Not your lost profit! Everyone assumes the latter -- that they'll be compensated -- but in reality they'll be refunded $3.27 for the storage account that's got a few gigabytes of ultra-critical build scripts and static web content, without which their multi-mil…

Isn’t that typical for basic retail services? You won’t get compensation for lost profit if the electricity goes out or your ISP quits routing your packets for a few hours. At least not with a standard service contract. You can negotiate something with real penalties if you’re big enough, but it won’t be cheap.

Yeah, I don't know anyone who assumes they'd be compensated for lost profit.

That would be something entirely different -- buying a form of insurance, basically, that would be expensive.

SLA's aren't meant to make your whole as a business, generally speaking. They're meant to incentivize the provider to take uptime really seriously, so that downtime eats some of their profit. Which means you can take their expected uptime estimates as a decent ballpark.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by jmpman »

colinbartlett wrote: post #34
0xFEE1DEAD wrote: post #21

Looks like Azure is experiencing a major outage, but I cannot find anything about it. If you look at downdetector.com you'll notice reported outages from OpenAI, Microsoft 365, XBox Live, Walmart, the list goes on.

If nobody minds a plug: My own product, StatusGator, which was launched here on HackerNews 10 year ago, notifies IT teams about outages before they are acknowledged by official status pages. - This OpenAI outage[1] we notified 4 minutes before they acknowledged. - The last AWS outage[2], we notified 28 minutes before they acknowledged - There is def an Azure outage[3] now yet they have still not updated their status…

Btw, tried to sign up and got a message that it would send me an email to confirm my login. Instead what I received was an email pointing me to a video demo. Not sure if simply clicking on that link was enough to confirm my email. That’s outside of a normal workflow.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by Thorrez »

llm_trw wrote: post #51
Yawrehto wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't use Grok. Google is a big company that has to be reasonably objective, but Elon seems to be the sort of guy who would pettily include jabs at people he doesn't like into the data. Also he's a horrible human for many reasons and I'd prefer not to support him if I can avoid it. (You know it's bad when Google is ethical in comparison.)

Ah yes, google a company known for not injecting an ideology into their AI: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/23/google-gemini-ai... Nor building AI tools for the pentagon to bomb Yemeni weddings more efficiently: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Maven

According to the Wikipedia article, Google pulled out of Project Maven due to employee protests. Microsoft and Amazon also worked on Project Maven and Wikipedia doesn't mention them pulling out. So I think Google is more anti-Maven than Microsoft and Amazon.

Disclosure: I work at Google.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by __turbobrew__ »

nialv7 wrote: post #89
sunaookami wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Status page is updated now: https://azure.status.microsoft/ >Impact Statement: Starting at 18:44 UTC on 26 Dec 2024, you have been identified as a customer who was impacted by a power incident in South Central US and may experience a degraded experience. >Current Status: There was a power incident in the South Central US AZ03 which affected multiple services. We have applied mitigation and are actively validating rec…

Power outage seems really odd. Don't datacenters usually have multiple redundant power supplies + on-site backup power generation? Maybe power "incident" mean something else?

The switching equipment can fail. Had this happen at a DC where the switching equipment arc flashed when going from mains to diesel generators. The switching equipment detected the arc and then locked out until someone onsite could inspect the equipment and override it. The rack UPSes only lasted like 5 minutes and then everything went dark.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by welder »

bobjordan wrote: post #86
projectileboy wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you be willing to elaborate on the ways in which the $200/month subscription is better than the $20/month subscription? I’m genuinely curious - not averse to paying more, depending on the value.

Here's why I think it's worth it: 1. Larger Context Window (128K) With Pro-Mode, I can paste an entire firmware file—thousands of lines of code—along with detailed hardware references, and the model can actually process it. This isn’t possible with the smaller context window on the $20 tier. On the Pro plan, I’ve pasted like 30+ pages of MCU datasheet information plus multiple header files in a single go. The model i…

How do you input/upload an engineering schematic or cad file into chatgpt pro-mode? Even with a higher context window, how does the context of your project get into chatgpt?

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by tugu77 »

jiggawatts wrote: post #61
jsiepkes wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Besides, we are not fully down. Some services are just degraded. Only 50% of the requests take 40 seconds to complete. Never mind the fact you'll never be able to load a complete page due to all the timeouts.

Also, I love how the Microsoft Azure SLA simply states that if they're down for "more than X hours in a month" then they will refund the cost of the service . Not your lost profit! Everyone assumes the latter -- that they'll be compensated -- but in reality they'll be refunded $3.27 for the storage account that's got a few gigabytes of ultra-critical build scripts and static web content, without which their multi-mil…

If you think that a $3.27 deal includes compensation for multi-million losses then your expectations of how businesses work need re-adjusting.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by egeozcan »

bobjordan wrote: post #86
projectileboy wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you be willing to elaborate on the ways in which the $200/month subscription is better than the $20/month subscription? I’m genuinely curious - not averse to paying more, depending on the value.

Here's why I think it's worth it: 1. Larger Context Window (128K) With Pro-Mode, I can paste an entire firmware file—thousands of lines of code—along with detailed hardware references, and the model can actually process it. This isn’t possible with the smaller context window on the $20 tier. On the Pro plan, I’ve pasted like 30+ pages of MCU datasheet information plus multiple header files in a single go. The model i…

I don't have the pro plan, so can anyone compare it to the results from the new Google models with huge context windows (available in aistudio)? I was playing around with them and they were able to consume some medium (even large by some standards) code bases completely and offer me diffs for changes I wanted to implement - not the most successful ones but good attempts.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by emptiestplace »

__turbobrew__ wrote: post #104
nialv7 wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Power outage seems really odd. Don't datacenters usually have multiple redundant power supplies + on-site backup power generation? Maybe power "incident" mean something else?

The switching equipment can fail. Had this happen at a DC where the switching equipment arc flashed when going from mains to diesel generators. The switching equipment detected the arc and then locked out until someone onsite could inspect the equipment and override it. The rack UPSes only lasted like 5 minutes and then everything went dark.

That sounds quiet.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by franze »

projectileboy wrote: post #57
bobjordan wrote: post #32

Wow, I subscribed to pro-mode and have been using it like crazy since release to assist my firmware development. Extremely helpful. Now it's changed my workflow so much, I don't even want to work when it's down.

Would you be willing to elaborate on the ways in which the $200/month subscription is better than the $20/month subscription? I’m genuinely curious - not averse to paying more, depending on the value.

No nr of prompts limitations.

No worries that you run put of prompts for o1. which allows for more experimentation and creativity.

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