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Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by jiggawatts »

jsiepkes wrote: post #53
jiggawatts wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You answered your own question! “Boss, can I change this indicator from green to red?” “How much will that cost us?” “About a million dollars an hour.” “No.”

Besides, we are not fully down. Some services are just degraded. Only 50% of the requests take 40 seconds to complete. Never mind the fact you'll never be able to load a complete page due to all the timeouts.

Also, I love how the Microsoft Azure SLA simply states that if they're down for "more than X hours in a month" then they will refund the cost of the service.

Not your lost profit!

Everyone assumes the latter -- that they'll be compensated -- but in reality they'll be refunded $3.27 for the storage account that's got a few gigabytes of ultra-critical build scripts and static web content, without which their multi-million dollar business stops dead.

"We can refund you with loose change, or a gift card for a coffee."

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

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Post by DonHopkins »

llm_trw wrote: post #51
Yawrehto wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't use Grok. Google is a big company that has to be reasonably objective, but Elon seems to be the sort of guy who would pettily include jabs at people he doesn't like into the data. Also he's a horrible human for many reasons and I'd prefer not to support him if I can avoid it. (You know it's bad when Google is ethical in comparison.)

Ah yes, google a company known for not injecting an ideology into their AI: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/23/google-gemini-ai... Nor building AI tools for the pentagon to bomb Yemeni weddings more efficiently: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Maven

That's his whole point. And that Elon is even more biased and actively purposefully horrible and unethical than that. By validly criticising Google, you're just reinforcing his point.

Didn't you read the part where he wrote "(You know it's bad when Google is ethical in comparison.)"?

Do you know of anyone at Google who overpaid billions of dollars for a popular widely used communication platform just to use it to publicly humiliate, deadname, misgender, and bully their own child in front of millions of people?

And do you actually think he has the self control not to inject his own prejudices into the LLM he made for that very purpose? Of course it's ingested the sewage of content from Twitter, which is FULL of his own jabs against people he doesn't like, including his own child. He gives his own tweets extra weight, so don't you think he does the same with training Grok?

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/elon-musk-transgender...

>Elon Musk's transgender daughter, in first interview, says he berated her for being queer as a child. In an exclusive interview, Vivian Jenna Wilson said her father’s recent statements, including that she is “not a girl,” inspired her to speak out: “I’m not just gonna let that slide.”

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

#63

Post by lukan »

jiggawatts wrote: post #25
transcriptase wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wish I could find where someone at AWS described in great detail why their status page was so useless for so long. It basically needed so many approvals to change it (which was disincentivized by SLAs) that issues were usually resolved first. That’s setting aside when they hosted the status red/yellow/green indicator images on s3, so the surest sign that s3 was having issues was that the status indicators didn’t load…

You answered your own question! “Boss, can I change this indicator from green to red?” “How much will that cost us?” “About a million dollars an hour.” “No.”

Does changing the indicator cost them really money?

Like are there contracts bound to the uptime and at the same time bound to them self reporting it? That would seem strange.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

#65

Post by lukan »

DonHopkins wrote: post #62
llm_trw wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah yes, google a company known for not injecting an ideology into their AI: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/23/google-gemini-ai... Nor building AI tools for the pentagon to bomb Yemeni weddings more efficiently: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Maven

That's his whole point. And that Elon is even more biased and actively purposefully horrible and unethical than that. By validly criticising Google, you're just reinforcing his point. Didn't you read the part where he wrote "(You know it's bad when Google is ethical in comparison.)"? Do you know of anyone at Google who overpaid billions of dollars for a popular widely used communication platform just to use it to pub…

"Do you know of anyone at Google who overpaid billions of dollars for a communication platform just to use it to publicly humiliate, deadname, misgender, and bully their own child in front of millions of people?"

It got him the adviser role of the president, which in turn might save and make him billions.

But his main motivation might have been indeed to fight "the woke terror".

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

#66

Post by lukan »

franze wrote: post #48
KennyBlanken wrote: post #36

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General knowledge? Five times in two weeks I've asked OpenAI some basic factual information and it didn't get even close on any of them.

Dont ask GPTs for facts, thats a knowledge problem, they dont habe any. Ask it for reasoning, u habe to bring the facts.

That doesn't work reliable either for me.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

#67

Post by greatpostman »

bobjordan wrote: post #32

Wow, I subscribed to pro-mode and have been using it like crazy since release to assist my firmware development. Extremely helpful. Now it's changed my workflow so much, I don't even want to work when it's down.

Same, tried to fall back to sonnet 3.5, ended up just logging off

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

#68

Post by wat10000 »

jiggawatts wrote: post #61
jsiepkes wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Besides, we are not fully down. Some services are just degraded. Only 50% of the requests take 40 seconds to complete. Never mind the fact you'll never be able to load a complete page due to all the timeouts.

Also, I love how the Microsoft Azure SLA simply states that if they're down for "more than X hours in a month" then they will refund the cost of the service . Not your lost profit! Everyone assumes the latter -- that they'll be compensated -- but in reality they'll be refunded $3.27 for the storage account that's got a few gigabytes of ultra-critical build scripts and static web content, without which their multi-mil…

Isn’t that typical for basic retail services? You won’t get compensation for lost profit if the electricity goes out or your ISP quits routing your packets for a few hours. At least not with a standard service contract. You can negotiate something with real penalties if you’re big enough, but it won’t be cheap.

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

#69

Post by BLKNSLVR »

jiggawatts wrote: post #61
jsiepkes wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Besides, we are not fully down. Some services are just degraded. Only 50% of the requests take 40 seconds to complete. Never mind the fact you'll never be able to load a complete page due to all the timeouts.

Also, I love how the Microsoft Azure SLA simply states that if they're down for "more than X hours in a month" then they will refund the cost of the service . Not your lost profit! Everyone assumes the latter -- that they'll be compensated -- but in reality they'll be refunded $3.27 for the storage account that's got a few gigabytes of ultra-critical build scripts and static web content, without which their multi-mil…

The Crowd Strike recompense

Re: Ask HN: Is ChatGPT down?

#70

Post by DonHopkins »

lukan wrote: post #65
DonHopkins wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's his whole point. And that Elon is even more biased and actively purposefully horrible and unethical than that. By validly criticising Google, you're just reinforcing his point. Didn't you read the part where he wrote "(You know it's bad when Google is ethical in comparison.)"? Do you know of anyone at Google who overpaid billions of dollars for a popular widely used communication platform just to use it to pub…

"Do you know of anyone at Google who overpaid billions of dollars for a communication platform just to use it to publicly humiliate, deadname, misgender, and bully their own child in front of millions of people?" It got him the adviser role of the president, which in turn might save and make him billions. But his main motivation might have been indeed to fight "the woke terror".

If fighting "the woke terror" means abusing your own child in public.

Maybe he'll give Trump some advice on putting Don Jr. and Eric in their place.

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