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Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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If you’re willing to pay for proprietary software, I’ve been incredibly happy with Roon for music organization. Handles 99% of albums I add without an issue, great multi-room support, best suggestions of any existing service (Rest in peace Google Play Music). They added remote streaming a few years ago and it’s all I use now.

I have friends that use Roon and say it's great, and has some nice features for room-based EQ, however I want to spend £0/mo standing cost (all extra goes to bandcamp).

Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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Longtime Navidrome user so that's what I'm comparing this to. This project looks cool, albeit simple at this point, but what I'd really love is a solution for music discovery for folks who self host their collection. Is there something that sets this project apart from other easily self hostable tools?

Yes, I'm also interested in this project but Navidrome does a great job alongside Jellyfin and Audiobookshelf. A great trio.

Hey @hebocon I've been using jellyfin for both music and movies for close to a year...but keep hearing of navidrome (for music) as well. So, can i assume that you don't really use jellyfin for music, and instead use navidrome for that? How does that work for you? Any issues of interference, etc? I guess if i wanted jellyfin only for movies/tv, i could point it only at the folder where such media is saved, and then separately manage music via navidrome...but wondered what the benefits would be? Genuinely curious if you woiuld kindly share more info about your setup. Thanks! :-)

Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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>OK, I will ask. I presume you purchased all those music files that you host on that certain server, didn’t you? I self-host my music streaming with Plex, and I'll go ahead and admit to you that no -- not all of my music is paid for. >Also, these self hosted music services mean — no new music reco/discover, right? I've discovered more music, and more interesting music, through my Plex server in 6 months than I have o…

Sounds like an interesting website. Would you mind sharing the link? Asking for a friend.

The successor to oink was what.cd (most would say), and this site is the successor to what.cd -- it starts with the letters 'Red' and is a synonym for 'erased'.

Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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On the main docs page it says: > Navidrome does not support browsing by folders, but simulates it based on the tags with a structure like: /AlbumArtist/Album/01-Song.ext I don't think I have seen this tag simulation when I tried it around 2 years ago. But in any case, is this good enough? And does it recognize artists and songs from MusicBrainz like Jelly does flowlessly?

For Musicbrainz I use beets to import/organise the songs into my library directory structure. For stuff not on mb I use fb2k as it has a fairly decent tagger and move it to the local external drive, which is synced to the server. At home I usually just use fb2k to play to my sound system via an interface, and on the go I use play:Sub connected to the navidrome instance transcoded to 160k OPUS (initially over tailscal…

I use FB2k with picard and MB. If its not in the MB, I add it myself. With bookmarklests and picard this is very fast process.

Beets is too much work. I don't always have shell around nor I want to remote for this. This thing I use works on whatever machine I am currently.

I use jelly for convenience to connect to my media server when I am not at home. At home, I always use foobar2k which simply rocks for precise search and randomly generated lists (I even use SQL for this, via plugin). Its playing capabilities are far from any jelly like streaming server. Jelly is very bad at non-typical case, you can't even share a link to the current playlist and if left alone, after a day or two I have to reload jelly home page and go from there again, as anything that was left in the browser for a couple of days stops working until I reload from home.

Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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I’ve been searching for services that host personal music collections, but there doesn’t seem to be much available. I came across a product called Vox [1], which I might try. There are also plenty of self-hosted projects of varying quality (but I hadn’t seen Black Candy before). I'd like a service where I can upload a large folder of MP3s, and it would help organize them into albums, perform useful processing like Re…

Look for "Storage VPS".

Then just run navidrome using docker-compose or microk8s

Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the main docs page it says: > Navidrome does not support browsing by folders, but simulates it based on the tags with a structure like: /AlbumArtist/Album/01-Song.ext I don't think I have seen this tag simulation when I tried it around 2 years ago. But in any case, is this good enough? And does it recognize artists and songs from MusicBrainz like Jelly does flowlessly?

I don't know what you mean by "recognizing songs from musicbrainz", I've never used jellyfin to be able to compare. In my case, all files are tagged outside Navidrome. All my players allow browsing by either Album Artist, Artist or Album. My folder layout follows this principle, so I'm happy with that. But I can imagine layouts which don't adhere to this (classical music comes to mind), in which case I can see how no…

Recognizing from MB is this: you have title1.mp3 and you can use MB fingerprint to detect song/album. Or song simply has subset of tags and MB fills up the rest, along with the links to MB details of artist/album where you can get tiny little details.

Discogs is a bit better in that, but its proprietary, so no.

Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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I'm probably missing something. Why self-host when for $10/mo. you can access a nearly unlimited catalog of music on Spotify with integration on phone, PC, car, Sonos, etc?

Because:

* You don't have any control, if some paperwork fucks up you can lose access (rarer with music but very common with video services)

* They don't have a lot of rare stuff, demos, EPs, singles, dubplates, etc.

* You can't choose which version of an album you want.

* If you run out of money for whatever reason you can't listen to music.

* Offline is unreliable.

* Screw having my taste and discovery defined by an algorithm

* Artists get fuck all money compared to buying stuff off of Bandcamp/buying CDs and ripping them, even if you still pirate a lot of stuff.

* They have questionable ethics as a company.

* No lossless.

* When you curate your own collection you develop in my opinion a deeper relationship with it.

I have to rent my home and most other stuff in life, music is one of the most important things in the world to me. I'm done with renting that.

Re: Blackcandy: Self hosted music streaming server

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I'm probably missing something. Why self-host when for $10/mo. you can access a nearly unlimited catalog of music on Spotify with integration on phone, PC, car, Sonos, etc?

People are already self-hosting other things maybe, and you can self-host from a PC at home without needing to pay hosting.

The advantages are control over data, greater privacy, etc.

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