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'shiny' gives pitch black, and 'obscure' gives blue sky color.
I think the point was that chocolate -> cocoa :)
Yes, that's nearly semantic f(x)=x, I added that we could also find an x such as f(x)=1/x and f(1/x)=x.
My favourite colour is Chuck Norris red
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#62A while ago I made this app that lets you pick a color and find an English word that gives a similar color: https://g-dv.gitlab.io/color-namer
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#63I can only think of one thing. The computational overhead of this parsing insanity. With the size of modern web pages and the scale. This must amount to a very significant cost.
The problem there is that there's a lot of sanity checking happening in browsers; I hope there will be a new technology where things like html, css and JS are all precompiled / pre-verified so the page is executed as-is with minimal sanity checking.
There was a post yesterday about Python's random() vs randint; the former just spits out a random number, the latter does a list of sanity checks on the arguments passed, whose cost adds up in many invocations. But that's a runtime sanity check, if that can be done beforehand with e.g. a stricter type system + a "let it crash / fail" attitude at runtime, all that sanity checking overhead would be gone.
I mean this script / at-runtime checking is fine during development if it means shorter iterations and whatnot, but in production it shouldn't happen.
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#64>I've heard people quip that browsers should be less forgiving and enforce perfection. That allowing jank makes the web somehow 'bad'. Considering all the misery inflicted by computer crime that's enabled by the forgiving attitude, I 100% agree. And given the choice between "you can still visit the Space Jam website[0]" or "never worry about drive-by ransomware again", I'm pretty sure I'd be with the majority in choo…
I think the choice is more "writing a browser is a weekend project" vs "writing a browser is years of toil and you'll need a local copy of the internet to test it comprehensively"
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#65I love how forgiving the web is. These days you can get strictness with typescript and the like, which is great for businesses and work. But the forgiving nature of html and css and even javascript has contributed to so much adoption. Plus grew one of the most important things in an platform the ecosystem itself. Seeing rust slow down with piles of crates and fall into the same issues, js and npm has, perhaps its not…
I don't love how forgiving the web is. We would all spend far less time debugging painful HTML/CSS/JS issues if the web was stricter. I think several billion man-hours would have been saved and human civilization probably more advanced. Also health-insurance costs would be reduced and web-developer lifespan likely increased thanks to less blood pressure.
(Don't think the Rust analogy really holds. npm is worse than Cargo. Of-course things could be better - a blessed standard extensions library: `stdx` with a quarterly update cycle and the crate nightmare will be solved)
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I wonder why it ended up being "hash-tag" on social media when it's quite common for North Americans to refer to the symbol as the "pound symbol"?
No idea, but it used to cause confusion that on a British keyboard Shift-3 produced the £ symbol, but a US keyboard produced the # symbol - while in the respective countries they were both referred to as "pound" Perhaps some British influence somewhere? Where were # tags first popularised in the public imagination? Twitter I assume? Or something else? --- Edit to add side-observation: "Octothorpe" I quite like, but I…
> what is the proper name for what I exclusively call "curly braces" ?
Sideways moustaches.
Re: My favourite colour is Chuck Norris red
#67I love how forgiving the web is. These days you can get strictness with typescript and the like, which is great for businesses and work. But the forgiving nature of html and css and even javascript has contributed to so much adoption. Plus grew one of the most important things in an platform the ecosystem itself. Seeing rust slow down with piles of crates and fall into the same issues, js and npm has, perhaps its not…
I do appreciate all of what you’ve said but the author of this piece is actually mistaken. The browser isn’t actually processing the string “chucknorris” and forgiving incorrectly provided hex codes, which is a common misconception. What actually happens within the rendering pipeline is that the full literal string (in this case, “chucknorris”) is parsed, and the browser attempts to render the tag in the colour of bl…
And, inevitably, the next generation [0] comes along and use the colour without having any idea of who Chuck Norris even was.
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#68I love how forgiving the web is. These days you can get strictness with typescript and the like, which is great for businesses and work. But the forgiving nature of html and css and even javascript has contributed to so much adoption. Plus grew one of the most important things in an platform the ecosystem itself. Seeing rust slow down with piles of crates and fall into the same issues, js and npm has, perhaps its not…
> I love how forgiving the web is
I have completely opposite opinion. This "forgiveness" comes at a cost:
- unexpected behavior instead of an early crash
- hard to treat the platform seriously for mission critical tasks
- makes it common to have many ways to solve the same problem
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#69I love how forgiving the web is. These days you can get strictness with typescript and the like, which is great for businesses and work. But the forgiving nature of html and css and even javascript has contributed to so much adoption. Plus grew one of the most important things in an platform the ecosystem itself. Seeing rust slow down with piles of crates and fall into the same issues, js and npm has, perhaps its not…
The web solved distribution and that's why the web won. Click on a link see a page. Click on a link open an app. The alternative was downloading a .exe from questionable origin over an unreliable dial-up connection. App stores have become hugely successful since and if Microsoft had invented the mobile app model in the 90s (sandboxing and 1 click install process, like flatpak on linux) that model would probably have won instead of the web app. The web was incredibly buggy and horrifically slow for 2 decades, but there was no alternative so it won by default.
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#70I love how forgiving the web is. These days you can get strictness with typescript and the like, which is great for businesses and work. But the forgiving nature of html and css and even javascript has contributed to so much adoption. Plus grew one of the most important things in an platform the ecosystem itself. Seeing rust slow down with piles of crates and fall into the same issues, js and npm has, perhaps its not…
> And the web is fast, like really fast in rendering highly markedup text layouts. Just because everyone uses a frontend framework for “maintainability” doesn’t mean the engine is slow.
Yes and no. Many many non trivial things becomes very slow if you stick naïve ways with larger amounts for visual elements. It bites hard, because even naïve ways of doing things require quite some time for complex UIs, and very often, the roadblock requires to redo most if not all of the work.