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Re: My favourite colour is Chuck Norris red

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>I've heard people quip that browsers should be less forgiving and enforce perfection. That allowing jank makes the web somehow 'bad'.

Considering all the misery inflicted by computer crime that's enabled by the forgiving attitude, I 100% agree. And given the choice between "you can still visit the Space Jam website[0]" or "never worry about drive-by ransomware again", I'm pretty sure I'd be with the majority in choosing the latter. Security is a heavy price to pay for whimsy. Old-technology hobbyists could still run old web browsers in sandboxed VMs.

[0] https://www.spacejam.com/1996/

Re: My favourite colour is Chuck Norris red

#34
> The web is built on this foundation of resilience, both in technology and ethos. It's what allows a website from 1996 to still render in a modern browser. It's what lets a page load even when half the CSS is invalid. It's what makes it magic.

The concept of graceful degradation in web feature support is dead now. Presently most of the web fails to render at all if you don’t execute a giant javascript blob in full that is responsible for putting the words on the page. It’s quite sad.

Re: My favourite colour is Chuck Norris red

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post #9

The included codepen is unreadable on mobile until you remove -webkit-text-stroke from them CSS. At the initial value of 0.5rem it gives a quite cool effect, as if the text has been badly redacted with a white highlighter. I initially thought that was intentional.

Works fine on Android too, with Firefox.

Re: My favourite colour is Chuck Norris red

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post #33

>I've heard people quip that browsers should be less forgiving and enforce perfection. That allowing jank makes the web somehow 'bad'. Considering all the misery inflicted by computer crime that's enabled by the forgiving attitude, I 100% agree. And given the choice between "you can still visit the Space Jam website[0]" or "never worry about drive-by ransomware again", I'm pretty sure I'd be with the majority in choo…

It's a false choice in any case. Web browsers can support backward compatibility and at the same time offer a strict mode that benefits correctness and performance. Some real opportunities were missed to clean up JS semantics when Modules got introduced, for instance.

Re: My favourite colour is Chuck Norris red

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This reminded me of one of my first web-dev projects as a teenager - the first one I showed my (recently passed) father, in which you were prompted to ask "Chuck Norris" a yes or no question with a text box, and then would present you a yes or no answer with a suitable photo of the man himself. I did some rudimentary string parsing on submit, and if the question started with a word like "Where", "How", "Why", "Who" a…

This reminds me of the early web. So many fun websites like this. Now it's just silos controlled by megacorps, trying to outdo each other in competition for attention.

Well yes and no. I assure you, many many forums exist outside of Facebook, and mailing lists too.

And endless, classic, non-https sites still exist too.

They are just pages deep in Google's search results, especially with the entire first several pages of scrolling being their almost always wrong suggestions.

And it doesn't help that verbatim is completely broken now, and that Google aliases search terms, and drops search terms, even when using quotes.

A horrible design, and the result is all that goodness is harder to find.

It's not siloed, it's Google only

Re: My favourite colour is Chuck Norris red

#39

> If an octothorpe (#) is located at the start of the value, it's removed. An “octothorpe”! I never knew it was called that (and, apparently, neither does autocorrect). What a glorious name!

I wonder why it ended up being "hash-tag" on social media when it's quite common for North Americans to refer to the symbol as the "pound symbol"?

Re: My favourite colour is Chuck Norris red

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I love how forgiving the web is. These days you can get strictness with typescript and the like, which is great for businesses and work. But the forgiving nature of html and css and even javascript has contributed to so much adoption. Plus grew one of the most important things in an platform the ecosystem itself. Seeing rust slow down with piles of crates and fall into the same issues, js and npm has, perhaps its not a language problem but a ecosystem size problem. Larger user base === larger problems

If you really want pedantic strictness and perfection, native applications are the place to work. But it isnt always better.

And the web is fast, like really fast in rendering highly markedup text layouts. Just because everyone uses a frontend framework for “maintainability” doesn’t mean the engine is slow.

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