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Nullboard: Kanban board in a single HTML file

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Re: Nullboard: Kanban board in a single HTML file

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Post by sdeframond »

rpdillon wrote: post #37
johnfn wrote: post #32

I think "single HTML file" sets up a certain expectation that a five-thousand-line long HTML file with ~3500 lines of embedded JS doesn't really live up to. I mean, hey, everything can be a single HTML file if you embed the bundle inline in your HTML! Cool project, though - don't mean to take away anything from it.

I totally understand your take, but as a guy that spends most of his time on side projects working on single HTML files, I have a different perspective. I find the totally self-contained nature of them very appealing because it travels well through space and time, and it's incredibly accessible, both online and offline. My current side project is actually using a WebDAV server to host a wide variety of different sing…

> The main trick to these apps [...] is to construct a file in such a way that it can create an updated copy of itself and save it back to the server.

Any additional info/pointers on this ?

Re: Nullboard: Kanban board in a single HTML file

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Post by tvmalsv »

rpdillon wrote: post #84
johnfn wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I'd call that "local-first" or perhaps "offline-first". I can't think of a reason why a local-first app would need to be crammed into a single HTML file, hehe. I do agree it's very cool, though!

I tried to allude to this in my response above, but the fundamental reason that they're all crammed into a single file is to make sharing really easy. This is what I meant when I said it travels well through space.

I definitely get the appeal. It’s analogous to the single file executable. One file to move around, no install process needed, just grab and run. It was the main reason I used to reach for Delphi back in the day for Windows utilities.

Re: Nullboard: Kanban board in a single HTML file

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Post by candu »

Cool! This could be interesting as the base for a quick kanban board for mid-sized personal projects.

That said: agree with others that sharing state between devices (either yours or others), and being able to collaborate on the same board, is sort of the canonical feature requirement of kanban boards. They can be used for 1-person projects, goal tracking, etc. - I've used e.g. Notion boards in this way - but they gain most of their value from allowing multiple people to share awareness of task status and ownership.

Plus the use of localStorage means I'd eventually blow away my board state by accident - which is kind of a showstopper IMHO; being able to trust your tools is important.

Still: nice to see people experimenting with what you can do just using web basics :)

Re: Nullboard: Kanban board in a single HTML file

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Post by [deleted] »

sdeframond wrote: post #131
rpdillon wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I totally understand your take, but as a guy that spends most of his time on side projects working on single HTML files, I have a different perspective. I find the totally self-contained nature of them very appealing because it travels well through space and time, and it's incredibly accessible, both online and offline. My current side project is actually using a WebDAV server to host a wide variety of different sing…

> The main trick to these apps [...] is to construct a file in such a way that it can create an updated copy of itself and save it back to the server. Any additional info/pointers on this ?

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Re: Nullboard: Kanban board in a single HTML file

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Post by ochrist »

vovkasm wrote: post #79
zimpenfish wrote: post #6

Fortuitous - I've been looking for a simple Kanban board this week and all the popular ones are a bit heavy (`plane` uses 8 containers!) or insist on using `mysql`.

You might like kanboard, it's a classic LAMP project but it can use sqlite for small installations.

I'll second that. I've used it a lot for my own small projects.

Re: Nullboard: Kanban board in a single HTML file

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Post by WickyNilliams »

xandrius wrote: post #21
egeozcan wrote: post #16

This is very cool. BTW, when developing single HTML file apps, instead of localStorage, one can use the HTML as the source of truth, so the user can just save/save-as to persist. I had mentioned my quick and dirty attempt at an image gallery that is a self-contained html file and some really liked the concept, if not the "app" itself: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41877482

Wait, so every time I make a change I need to remember to save or it's all lost? Or am I missing something?

You could combine localStorage and manual save. Anything unsaved goes to localStorage, on save write to html and clear local storage. Best of both worlds?
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