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A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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You'd think so, but America is the most armed country in the world and most of us have had something stolen. I think the overall sentiment is "I'm like 99% going to get away with this and pawn it for money" and they're right.

“and most of us have had something stolen” I’m not sure that’s accurate. It may be true in large cities, but most people don’t live in NY or SF. Yeah - the closest stat I can find works out to fewer than 2% of people per year are theft victims. [0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/191247/reported-larceny-... .

Given the average lifespan is ~80yrs then the average chance you've had something stolen over over say 40 years is much higher than 2%. It's 2% per year so ~45% for 30yrs and 55% for 40yrs?

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If it’s left anywhere in the open at anytime, you can repossess it legally as well. This happens with auto repossessions all the time. You don’t owe anyone an explanation as it’s yours - just take it if you can do so safely.

Just be careful! In SOME jurisdictions, you can get in trouble for 'stealing' if you take back something that was stolen. Possession vs Ownership are 2 different things. For instance, the thief may have stolen something, sold it to someone who bought it in good-faith, and you take it back from that person, it's technically theft! File a police report, go through the right channels. If you know its yours, call the pol…

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Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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No, THE most useful advice is not to take legal advice from cops.

How do you think the police will give bad advice, if you call them up and ask what to do?

Ages ago when I tried calling the police...

"We cannot answer legal questions, please seek a lawyer for advise."

I don't do anything terribly interesting, so this was almost certainly not an issue actually worth paying $200 for a lawyer to answer.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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There are countless examples of police not knowing the law. If you talk to them in person, it should be to get an idea of what they'll do, which may or may not have something to do with what's legal. If you want legal advice, ask a lawyer with experience in the relevant area.

You don't want legal advice. You know where your stolen bike is, so you call the police. I think that's the usual process. Probably they will verify that the bike is yours, and retrieve it, or they will say that they don't have the resources. Are people imagining that the police will say that you can go take the bike, but then turn around and arrest you for theft? Of course, if the police tell you "finders keepers; i…

No. The police will offer you the option to come to the police station and fill out a report so you can get a police report number for your insurance claim. Nothing else will happen.

Police don’t usually investigate petty crimes.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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The police won’t help you. It’s not their job.

Move, or elect better local politicians. Your city is broken.

Different local politicians won’t change the legal fact that the police have no obligation whatsoever to investigate or prevent crime. It’s simply not in the job description.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Nice solution, but the bigger problem is how AirTags can basically be turned off, which makes it poor for many use cases. Of course, I get it from Apple's perspective, they dont want AirTags to be used to tail others. However, that precludes it from being used for theft tracking. For example, I use an AirTag on my bicycle. If someone steals the bicycle, they are literally informed "an air tag is following you" https:…

> Nice solution, but the bigger problem is how AirTags can basically be turned off, which makes it poor for many use cases.

Isn't that too late? If you disabled that AirTag with your phone, you are probably the thief. Now we got you fully I.D.ed.

It seems that the safest bet, for a thief/criminal, is to not take any iPhone (or phone) on him while committing the crime.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Nice! Definitely somewhat of a niche use case, but I don't doubt that it exists. I do wonder though: Do AA batteries actually have a shelf life of 10 years even without supplying any current?

The Lithium ones that they suggest to use do have a decade or more of shelf life, and they also don't leak! I've got an old pinball machine. Those use AA batteries to store highscores and settings in a battery-powered RAM chip. Typically the batteries must be replaced once a year or at least every two years, largely because of self-drain, and it's a common occurrence of them leaking, which can quickly destroy the 30…

Do you know why alkaline batteries leak, but lithium do not?

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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IDK where you live but where I am, unless it's an actively life threatening emergency, the Police will say they're busy. I watched a drunk driver try to drive away after smashing into a parked car, ripping a wheel off the parked car. The drunk driver kept trying to start his car to get away. People called the police but they said they're busy. Fortunately his car was totaled and wouldn't start either. Over an hour la…

Sounds like you live in a crappy big city like SF, Oakland, Santa Clara, etc. For the vast majority of people who live in reasonable cities, calling the police for something like that will get a timely response.

Didn’t happen in the small North Carolina town that my parents live in, with a very similar situation as the parent. So truly, YMMV. Not all places can be generalized.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Nice solution, but the bigger problem is how AirTags can basically be turned off, which makes it poor for many use cases. Of course, I get it from Apple's perspective, they dont want AirTags to be used to tail others. However, that precludes it from being used for theft tracking. For example, I use an AirTag on my bicycle. If someone steals the bicycle, they are literally informed "an air tag is following you" https:…

https://github.com/seemoo-lab/openhaystack/?tab=readme-ov-fi...

These won’t inform, I believe.

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