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A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by spacebanana7 »

netsharc wrote: post #274
citizenpaul wrote: post #230

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>stop glorifying cowardice I mostly agree. I don't think its cowardice most of the time though. Its that laws now favor criminals if you attempt to do anything yourself. Its become public policy that "rich" people buying things can simply absorb the loss and the police don't even have to do anything because no one bothers to report it. The police win because crime stats go down, thiefs win because they get the goods,…

> Its that laws now favor criminals if you attempt to do anything yourself. That just reads like a general "this is why I'm a coward" excuse. Also what you want is spelled "It's".

It’s a good excuse because it’s a fair description of why cowardice is rational in many western legal contexts.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by phil21 »

Grazester wrote: post #206
wyager wrote: post #165

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> Who leaves 10K worth of anything in their car? People who live in a high-trust society and not a shithole? I leave $10k of stuff in my car all the time, and it would be super inconvenient if I couldn't.

No matter how trusting I am of society this is something I cannot and will not do. It takes one person to commit this crime. It doesn't even have to be a "shit hole", then what? I am out of 10k? I only have myself to blame then really because I trusted "society". The world isn't perfect and I am not half naive enough to think it is and put my trust in it for anything worth this much.

In such places folks feel comfortable leaving $10k worth of gear in their vehicle, law enforcement would most likely follow up if you had the gear tracked to a known location. I've seen such happen with the items being recovered and the thieves arrested in a matter of hours from the theft happening.

In places where leaving $10k of gear in your car is considered foolish and the victims are blamed as many are used to these days, law enforcement is useless and the victim of the theft laughed at as being hopelessly naive.

It's the tale of two worlds really.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by extra88 »

neilv wrote: post #270
TylerE wrote: post #265

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No, THE most useful advice is not to take legal advice from cops.

How do you think the police will give bad advice, if you call them up and ask what to do?

There are countless examples of police not knowing the law.

If you talk to them in person, it should be to get an idea of what they'll do, which may or may not have something to do with what's legal.

If you want legal advice, ask a lawyer with experience in the relevant area.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by comradesmith »

drdaeman wrote: post #56

Are AirTags actually useful for anti-theft purposes? I threw one in the trunk of my car (just in case - I ordered a 4-pack and I had a spare one), and every single time I drive somewhere it chirps loudly when I'm exiting my driveway, making its presence immediately obvious without any delays, and despite my phone being with me in the car.

You can disable the speaker physically, it’s not too difficult

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by unsnap_biceps »

hnlmorg wrote: post #177
unsnap_biceps wrote: post #146

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So last week my keys AirTag was dead, and I checked my notifications and I only received one notification in October that it had a low battery, but to be fair, I don't know exactly when it died between October and last week. Maybe my batteries die completely before the second notification triggers.

How do you check historic notifications?

I never dismiss them, so there's a huge pile on my phone.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by unsnap_biceps »

dylan604 wrote: post #183
unsnap_biceps wrote: post #146

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So last week my keys AirTag was dead, and I checked my notifications and I only received one notification in October that it had a low battery, but to be fair, I don't know exactly when it died between October and last week. Maybe my batteries die completely before the second notification triggers.

Maybe they need an option for people like you called "smoke detector mode" where it starts to annoyingly beep once a minute.

I take ownership of the fact that I didn't change the battery when prompted. I only stated that in my experience it's a single notification vs the other folks saying they get notified multiple times.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by srockets »

mikeortman wrote: post #256
nostromo wrote: post #252

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If it’s left anywhere in the open at anytime, you can repossess it legally as well. This happens with auto repossessions all the time. You don’t owe anyone an explanation as it’s yours - just take it if you can do so safely.

Just be careful! In SOME jurisdictions, you can get in trouble for 'stealing' if you take back something that was stolen. Possession vs Ownership are 2 different things. For instance, the thief may have stolen something, sold it to someone who bought it in good-faith, and you take it back from that person, it's technically theft! File a police report, go through the right channels. If you know its yours, call the pol…

The police won’t help you. It’s not their job.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by wahnfrieden »

srockets wrote: post #287
mikeortman wrote: post #256

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Just be careful! In SOME jurisdictions, you can get in trouble for 'stealing' if you take back something that was stolen. Possession vs Ownership are 2 different things. For instance, the thief may have stolen something, sold it to someone who bought it in good-faith, and you take it back from that person, it's technically theft! File a police report, go through the right channels. If you know its yours, call the pol…

The police won’t help you. It’s not their job.

They will at best waste your time, and at worst they will cause you and your family harm for involving them. In Toronto even a stolen car is not enough to get their attention if you are not a high-profile business owner.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by bobthepanda »

jmull wrote: post #81

I know this is useful (for something), but I'm stuck on the plot holes in the motivating story... Why didn't they replace the battery when the app complained? How long would a thief really keep the AirTag anyway? If the thief did keep the AirTag and you tracked them down, then what? A confrontation has a fairly high chance to have a worse result than losing some equipment. You could try to get the police to do it, bu…

In fact IIRC the first thing that happened when AirTags were announced were a bunch of concerns that surreptitious AirTags were usable as stalking devices and this seems to bring that concern up again.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Post by wahnfrieden »

theteapot wrote: post #247
NoPicklez wrote: post #242

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In all seriousness, if I put an Airtag on my $6k bike and it was stolen and it showed where it was. I'd be getting that bike back and not worrying too much about a confrontation. Worst case scenario I report it to police directly and it tells them exactly where it is. If something is stolen, if I don't know where it is that makes the problem 10x worse. At the very least the airtag shows where that item is (unless it…

> Worst case scenario I report it to police directly and it tells them exactly where it is. Yes, and then wait 6 months for the police to get around to picking it up ...

They will never get around to it. They don't even pursue stolen cars.
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