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If they kill this much chicks, why are people who choose to be vegetarian for moral/religious reasons OK with eating eggs?
During COVID, farmers were killing pigs with steam. Imagine being steamed alive. Animal industry is cruel beyond most people's imagination. Anything to lessen that cruelty is good, very good. We aren't gonna reduce our meat consumption, the least we could do is lessen their suffering https://www.humanesociety.org/blog/factory-farms-are-baking-... From the article above In an even more extreme form, referred to as VSD…
I don't mind the killing, but it should be quick, efficient, and as painless as possible for the animal involved.
During COVID, farmers were killing pigs with steam. Imagine being steamed alive. Animal industry is cruel beyond most people's imagination. Anything to lessen that cruelty is good, very good. We aren't gonna reduce our meat consumption, the least we could do is lessen their suffering https://www.humanesociety.org/blog/factory-farms-are-baking-... From the article above In an even more extreme form, referred to as VSD…
>We aren't gonna reduce our meat consumption, Why? This is certainly possible if we, humans, really wanted to. So I assume you just don't believe society will ever decide to do it. This is unnecessarily negative outlook IMO - the first step to change something is to believe change is possible.
People don’t change their ways very easily. I know I have to fight rolling my eyes whenever someone suggests the the solution is simple: eat less meat.
If they kill this much chicks, why are people who choose to be vegetarian for moral/religious reasons OK with eating eggs?
If they kill this much chicks, why are people who choose to be vegetarian for moral/religious reasons OK with eating eggs?
Not a vege myself but I don’t know many vegetarians that consume eggs. In my head I think vegan+dairy, but that’s probably because I’m a young person and veganism has popular ~most of my life.
If they kill this much chicks, why are people who choose to be vegetarian for moral/religious reasons OK with eating eggs?
As soon as it has a formed element of biological life to it, then no. I don't eat fish neither as it was alive.
Honey, milk I'm fine with it's a byproduct if sourced ethically. Unless I know the source, I won't eat it.
The problem isn't eating meat, the problem is the inhumanity caused by producing meat. We produce so much meat that we are slaughtering animals for the sake of rather than. Meat being of quality.
Having 12 McD chicken nuggets on the drive home is whats wrong. Not cooking steak from a butcher to have with wine for dinner.
> New technology enables hatcheries to quickly peer into millions of fertilized eggs and spot male embryos, then grind them up before they mature into chicks. I think the title is quite misleading. They would still end killed, just earlier.
In common usage, a chick is a young bird, especially newly hatched. An embryo isn't a young bird, and it especially isn't newly hatched. In practice, this doesn't matter to Christians, who believe that all non-human animals were put on Earth for man to do as he pleases with. https://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/bible.show/s...
> The fear and dread of you will fall on all the beasts of the earth, and on all the birds in the sky, on every creature that moves along the ground, and on all the fish in the sea; they are given into your hands.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
>We aren't gonna reduce our meat consumption, Why? This is certainly possible if we, humans, really wanted to. So I assume you just don't believe society will ever decide to do it. This is unnecessarily negative outlook IMO - the first step to change something is to believe change is possible.
This is a classic is-ought situation. Seems easier to improve the process and ethics of killing animals for consumption rather than reducing meat consumption at a society level. People don’t change their ways very easily. I know I have to fight rolling my eyes whenever someone suggests the the solution is simple: eat less meat.
If the GP said we will never stop eating meat I would agree. But saying we can't even reduce it is a bit extreme - we successfully reduced many other things (without banning them, just by coercing people - for example cigarettes).
During COVID, farmers were killing pigs with steam. Imagine being steamed alive. Animal industry is cruel beyond most people's imagination. Anything to lessen that cruelty is good, very good. We aren't gonna reduce our meat consumption, the least we could do is lessen their suffering https://www.humanesociety.org/blog/factory-farms-are-baking-... From the article above In an even more extreme form, referred to as VSD…
>We aren't gonna reduce our meat consumption, Why? This is certainly possible if we, humans, really wanted to. So I assume you just don't believe society will ever decide to do it. This is unnecessarily negative outlook IMO - the first step to change something is to believe change is possible.
I have never eaten meat in my life. But I am surrounded by meat eaters. Even polite, rational, calm discussion about reducing meat consumption doesn't last more than a minute. It is as though people are more addicted to meat than alcohol and somehow it is drilled into their heads that humans need meat for protein and strength, though there are tons of vegetarians who lead healthy lives.
You don't need to take my word for it - try talking to someone about reducing their meat consumption and see how the conversation goes.
> New technology enables hatcheries to quickly peer into millions of fertilized eggs and spot male embryos, then grind them up before they mature into chicks. I think the title is quite misleading. They would still end killed, just earlier.
I assume from the headline with this new way a conscious creature doesn't experience immense pain.
There's also the debate on whether one-day-old chicks are conscious, but I don't know the literature enough to have a strong opinion.