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US egg industry kills 350M chicks a year. New tech offers an alternative

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Re: US egg industry kills 350M chicks a year. New tech offers an alternative

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During COVID, farmers were killing pigs with steam. Imagine being steamed alive. Animal industry is cruel beyond most people's imagination. Anything to lessen that cruelty is good, very good.

We aren't gonna reduce our meat consumption, the least we could do is lessen their suffering

https://www.humanesociety.org/blog/factory-farms-are-baking-...

From the article above

In an even more extreme form, referred to as VSD-plus, heat, steam and/or gas are injected into the building, baking the animals alive

Re: US egg industry kills 350M chicks a year. New tech offers an alternative

#13
I am fundamentally opposed to all of this nonsense, but I don't think maceration would cause any pain - it's pretty fast.

This feels like a distraction from the real suffering we see in industrial farming. While the culling of male chicks gets a lot of attention because they're babies and that triggers an emotional response, there are much bigger issues in terms of actual suffering endured - like the prolonged confinement of laying hens and other factory farming practices.

The new embryo identification technology is an improvement, but I'm concerned that framing it as a 'humane solution' will just serve as moral licensing for consumers to feel better about continuing to support an inherently unethical system.

Re: US egg industry kills 350M chicks a year. New tech offers an alternative

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I don't know for a fact how the machine does it based on feather shading, but I do know for a fact that there is a thing about chickens: sex linking in hybrids.

When you hybridize certain pairs of breeds (e.g. reds and barred rocks) the hybrid chicks show different feather coloring at the time they hatch. Hybridization can also produce offspring which are for instance more productive egg layers. Being hybrids, they don't breed true.

Not all hybrids have the same consistent sex-linked characteristics.

Re: US egg industry kills 350M chicks a year. New tech offers an alternative

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post #5

> New technology enables hatcheries to quickly peer into millions of fertilized eggs and spot male embryos, then grind them up before they mature into chicks. I think the title is quite misleading. They would still end killed, just earlier.

Sounds like abortions

Re: US egg industry kills 350M chicks a year. New tech offers an alternative

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post #14

I don't know for a fact how the machine does it based on feather shading, but I do know for a fact that there is a thing about chickens: sex linking in hybrids. When you hybridize certain pairs of breeds (e.g. reds and barred rocks) the hybrid chicks show different feather coloring at the time they hatch. Hybridization can also produce offspring which are for instance more productive egg layers. Being hybrids, they d…

There goes jobs for the graduates of the Zen Nippon School of Chick Sexing https://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyle/chicken-sexers-in-...

Re: US egg industry kills 350M chicks a year. New tech offers an alternative

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post #12

During COVID, farmers were killing pigs with steam. Imagine being steamed alive. Animal industry is cruel beyond most people's imagination. Anything to lessen that cruelty is good, very good. We aren't gonna reduce our meat consumption, the least we could do is lessen their suffering https://www.humanesociety.org/blog/factory-farms-are-baking-... From the article above In an even more extreme form, referred to as VSD…

>We aren't gonna reduce our meat consumption,

Why?

This is certainly possible if we, humans, really wanted to. So I assume you just don't believe society will ever decide to do it. This is unnecessarily negative outlook IMO - the first step to change something is to believe change is possible.

Re: US egg industry kills 350M chicks a year. New tech offers an alternative

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post #5

> New technology enables hatcheries to quickly peer into millions of fertilized eggs and spot male embryos, then grind them up before they mature into chicks. I think the title is quite misleading. They would still end killed, just earlier.

In common usage, a chick is a young bird, especially newly hatched. An embryo isn't a young bird, and it especially isn't newly hatched.

In practice, this doesn't matter to Christians, who believe that all non-human animals were put on Earth for man to do as he pleases with.

https://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/bible.show/s...

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