The real cost is that society at large is no longer contributing to the StackOverflow, so problems and solutions are all now stored in proprietary databases (which granted SO also was) but also now stored in an invisible proprietary database
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#272The real cost is that society at large is no longer contributing to the StackOverflow, so problems and solutions are all now stored in proprietary databases (which granted SO also was) but also now stored in an invisible proprietary database
I thought of mailing lists as archaic, but maybe we just regressed from there.
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#273The real cost is that society at large is no longer contributing to the StackOverflow, so problems and solutions are all now stored in proprietary databases (which granted SO also was) but also now stored in an invisible proprietary database
I think you'd find society-at- small was contributing , with perhaps 10x larger yet still quite small number posting but watering down useful contributions, 100x that lurking, and 1000x that just drive-by copy-pasting from SO to their IDE.
So, every comment on a post roughly equals 100 views.
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#274The real cost is that society at large is no longer contributing to the StackOverflow, so problems and solutions are all now stored in proprietary databases (which granted SO also was) but also now stored in an invisible proprietary database
Stack Overflow is now a proprietary database too. Given the choice between that, and a proprietary robot offering 10x as much clarity and quality, I'd choose the robot. Not all LLMs are proprietary in the same way as Claude. Many LLMs have their weights publicly available, like Gemma. But I can understand if you feel like a floating point numbers file is de facto proprietary tool. But if you're smart, you would look…
> but as microprocessors become faster, I believe we'll be able to generate artificial realities of useful information we can't live without which are superior to Stack Overflow today.
Was this written by an LLM bot? It seems…off.
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#275Earlier quoted context omitted.
The StackOverflow database was open source for a while, but I haven't checked for a data dump since the new management came in.
True, may not be open source, but it is still viewable. Best for Society: Open Source Medium for Society: Proprietary, but openly browsable Worst for Society: Proprietary, not browsable <-- LLM-based code assist tools
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#276Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think you'd find society-at- small was contributing , with perhaps 10x larger yet still quite small number posting but watering down useful contributions, 100x that lurking, and 1000x that just drive-by copy-pasting from SO to their IDE.
There's a rule of tens online: for every comment, there are ten interactions (like an upvote/down ote), and for every interaction, there are 10 views. So, every comment on a post roughly equals 100 views.
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#277Earlier quoted context omitted.
True, may not be open source, but it is still viewable. Best for Society: Open Source Medium for Society: Proprietary, but openly browsable Worst for Society: Proprietary, not browsable <-- LLM-based code assist tools
...where would you classify Llama in here? That's not really "open source" despite what Facebook calls it, but I wouldn't call it proprietary, anyone can download and use the whole thing locally.
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#278Earlier quoted context omitted.
The StackOverflow database was open source for a while, but I haven't checked for a data dump since the new management came in.
True, may not be open source, but it is still viewable. Best for Society: Open Source Medium for Society: Proprietary, but openly browsable Worst for Society: Proprietary, not browsable <-- LLM-based code assist tools
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#279Earlier quoted context omitted.
...where would you classify Llama in here? That's not really "open source" despite what Facebook calls it, but I wouldn't call it proprietary, anyone can download and use the whole thing locally.
"public weights"?
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#280The real cost is that society at large is no longer contributing to the StackOverflow, so problems and solutions are all now stored in proprietary databases (which granted SO also was) but also now stored in an invisible proprietary database
There should be a product, something that you install to capture your own data, and then pseudo-anonymize it and sell it back to databurgers (I meant to write data brokers but I kept this misspelling for lolz).
Is there?
Assistant LLMs like Limitless.AI merged with their older desktop scraper app could be repackaged to do that...
New industry? Or old?