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Re: Ask HN: Quit stimulants, productivity suffering

#11

Stimulants? Like coffee? Or am I being really naive right now? If it's anything stronger than coffee, here's my recommendation: 1. Wim Hof Method from time to time (it boosts adrelanine temporarily) 2. Exercise (boosts all kinds of stuff) 3. Breathing meditation to train your attention

He's almost certainly talking about amphetamines.

Re: Ask HN: Quit stimulants, productivity suffering

#12

I haven't ingested stimulants since university, but a few surprising things put me in that familiar state of deep, almost euphoric concentration. I don't know why any of these work; it's up to you to determine how crazy I am. 1. NAC. I don't like this because it also seems to cause heartburn and blunts me. 2. Home brewed kefir. Overbrewing has the opposite effect, so you have to be diligent about changing the grains…

What is NAC?

https://www.webmd.com/diet/health-benefits-nac

Re: Ask HN: Quit stimulants, productivity suffering

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post #7

I stopped taking amphetamine stimulants for similar reasons and with a similar outcome. I ended up getting a prescription for Provigil (modafinil), a non-amphetamine stimulant. It’s not nearly as dopaminergic as amphetamine, decidedly non-euphoric, but more motivationally stimulating than caffeine. I found that the dose response lends itself well to former addicts, where taking the recommended dosage (100mg for me) d…

I take provigil as well. I was wise enough to stop taking Adderall and Dexedrine when I ended my schooling. I never had a prescription, but these were easy enough to find. Provigil is not an every day tool for me, only once and a while, but it gets the job done.

Re: Ask HN: Quit stimulants, productivity suffering

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have ADHD - stimulants make me a lot more productive until tolerance kicks in. It's easier to focus on boring tasks, and I'm high so work that normally isn't fun becomes fun. Once the tolerance kicks in (1-2 weeks of use) the high becomes mild / nonexistant and it no longer boosts my productivity

Interesting. OK. I have ADHD and I don't feel anything resembling a "high." If anything, I feel normal and relaxed on stimulants. But it also makes me able to focus and work hard, and I wouldn't have been able to accomplish what I have professionally or personally without it. Not just my job, but my marriage too was falling apart prior to getting on medication. What you wrote in the original post could have been writ…

I think the easiest distinction is the high part. I assume you have never crushed up Ritalin and/or Adderall to snort (I have). The guys taking it non-medicinally get a clear high, and tolerance demands higher doses. The best/worst one is desoxyn. That stuff is heavenly, but so addictive. After scoring a bottle of it I decided that I was never going to take any amphetamine ever again.

From what I understand, ADHD folks do not get the high part, so the addiction risk is not there.

Re: Ask HN: Quit stimulants, productivity suffering

#15
There is an interesting question underlying this scenario - is working in a cutthroat culture "normal" in the first place? If you needed stimulants to succeed there, and are trying to now live a healthier life, does that job even fit in that healthier life? Or should the answer to your question be more along the lines of finding a new role where your productivity meshes better with the expectations?

Re: Ask HN: Quit stimulants, productivity suffering

#16

Stimulants? Like coffee? Or am I being really naive right now? If it's anything stronger than coffee, here's my recommendation: 1. Wim Hof Method from time to time (it boosts adrelanine temporarily) 2. Exercise (boosts all kinds of stuff) 3. Breathing meditation to train your attention

He's almost certainly talking about amphetamines.

Thanks, me being naive then. My recommendations still stand as that is what I'd do as all 3 of them have stimulant-like effects.

Re: Ask HN: Quit stimulants, productivity suffering

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post #7

I stopped taking amphetamine stimulants for similar reasons and with a similar outcome. I ended up getting a prescription for Provigil (modafinil), a non-amphetamine stimulant. It’s not nearly as dopaminergic as amphetamine, decidedly non-euphoric, but more motivationally stimulating than caffeine. I found that the dose response lends itself well to former addicts, where taking the recommended dosage (100mg for me) d…

How do you get a prescription for that? Is that an ADHD med?
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