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How not using Internet Explorer put me out of touch and cost me dearly

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Re: How not using Internet Explorer put me out of touch and cost me dearly

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Post by raam86 »

You have created the perfect layman meter. I can't of any of my friends or collegues who would even consider searching for such a program since in blurring can not be done. Didnt use your program but this can be proved mathamatically. These people will never use explorer and even if they would, They are the kind if crowd who actually reads error messages.

On the other hand you have my grandma,aunt. Random old folks who fall into the red messege = panic & insta call super urgent call to me.

So yea far more layman are using IE Sent from android.

As for the cert. When you know about you simply explaon this on the page.

Re: How not using Internet Explorer put me out of touch and cost me dearly

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Post by praxulus »

harshreality wrote: post #70
praxulus wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm afraid I haven't been enlightened. How else can the PKI be structured while providing the same amount of security? Is public/private key cryptography itself fundamentally flawed? What's the alternative?

Some combination of distributed notaries, warning for unusual certificate conditions (e.g. certs changing when they have lots of time until expiration -- Dear Google, please stop doing that ), and other ideas. Convergence http://convergence.io/ (notary) Perspectives http://perspectives-project.org/ (notary) CertPatrol http://patrol.psyced.org/ (cert checking) TACK http://tack.io/ (only one cert per organizational gro…

When given the option to choose who to trust, the vast majority of users will stay with the defaults, which are chosen by Google, Microsoft, and Mozilla. That's not fundamentally different from what's currently in place.

Tack is much more interesting. I'm too sleepy to fully understand the proposal, but what I've gathered so far looks promising.

Re: How not using Internet Explorer put me out of touch and cost me dearly

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Post by vetinari »

NinetyNine wrote: post #86
achal wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> font and font size choices Agreed. I don't know if it's just me, but Helvetica looks rather bad on Windows. I've found that Segoe UI almost always looks more pleasing, and yet Helvetica is omnipresent on the web (partially because of Twitter bootstrap).

I can't verify this, but unless you installed Helvetica manually, windows installations won't have it and will fall back to whatever is specified next in the family (usually Arial or the default Sans Serif).

Some printer drivers install Helvetica, usually badly hinted (I'm looking at you, HP).

Re: How not using Internet Explorer put me out of touch and cost me dearly

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Post by aidos »

coderdude wrote: post #81
gmurphy wrote: post #9

In general, not using the platform your users use is a path to trouble. For example, because so many designers in the valley use Macs, we continually have to fight an OS X bias in our design process; when designing something, you tend to calibrate it against what you're used to, but when OS X is only 5% of the market, OS X-based designers of client software end up with a massive blind spot when it comes to understand…

A good example of this can be found on SoundCloud. They load a placeholder image that represents the common sharing widgets and then let the real widgets load over them. The problem is that the font rendering makes it look weird on any platform except the dev platform: http://i.imgur.com/lejjI.png

Oh yeah, that's an annoying one and we have that problem too. We have sharing controls that reload as you cycle through images - but the delay / iframes reloading for the share widgets looks terrible. To get around it we use fake versions like soundcloud.

Re: How not using Internet Explorer put me out of touch and cost me dearly

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Post by lucian1900 »

r00fus wrote: post #41
Hario wrote: post #10

I'm no expert on these sorts of things, but it seems like the story goes something like this: 1. Dev checks out his site using IE 2. Dev realizes that IE users were getting scary warnings about his software 3. Dev has to pay up money to a third company to make the scary warnings go away. Seems like a bad state of affairs to me.

So what's better? The App Store model, where you pay 30% + $99/year to sell your apps? Or paying for a certificate to prove your software's originator identity? Even OSX will likely soon make buying outside the Mac App Store cumbersome. About the only "free" market is Android or the Web. I suppose if you're selling to the Windows market, the App Store will be required in a few years as Metro becomes the dominant Wind…

Or desktop linux.

Re: How not using Internet Explorer put me out of touch and cost me dearly

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Post by Turing_Machine »

X-Istence wrote: post #53
Turing_Machine wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple gives out free developer id certificates. There's no reason Microsoft couldn't do the same.

Where does Apple give out free developer id certificates? Last I saw I had to purchase the $99 developer program ... https://developer.apple.com/resources/developer-id/

Okay, "free" was poor phrasing. I should have said "no extra charge". Compare this to the situation described in the original article, where the developer had to buy a separate $59 certificate from a third party, on top of what Microsoft charges you for Visual Studio (which looks to be $499 for the cheapest non-evaluation version).

Re: How not using Internet Explorer put me out of touch and cost me dearly

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Post by simonbrown »

sp332 wrote: post #38
lisper wrote: post #16

Is there a reason you don't offer deblurring as SAAS? I have a photo I'd happily pay to have deblurred, but I use a Mac.

That sounds like a completely different product. He would need to maintain infrastructure and an entire software stack under his deblurring program, design an API and/or security-hardened web interface to upload and retrieve photos, and consider bandwidth costs for every photo uploaded and downloaded.

Also, people might be worried about uploading private photos.

Re: How not using Internet Explorer put me out of touch and cost me dearly

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Post by gubatron »

yup, Microsoft and the companies issuing certificates have been at this for over a year, we had to get a certificate last year when we saw this issue.

It's a nice money maker for them getting all those yearly certificates, some charging several hundreds of dollars per year.

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