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Reciprocity is key. Google and Facebook and most Western web services are blocked in China. If that is the case, then there should be no complaint with blocking Bytedance/other Chinese apps in the West.
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They are blocked because they don’t censor content. If they did agree to, they would be allowed - just like Microsoft, Bing, Apple, and a handful of other digital products are not blocked in China. Edit: for those downvoting me, Google literally shut down their China operations because they were unwilling to comply with censorship requirements. Conversely, Google and other US companies seem completely willing to comp…
> They are blocked because they don’t censor content. These platforms certainly do censor content. They have large teams globally that do just that.
You are spreading the misinformation. Google can't keep up with the censorship shit and gave up as stated in their official blog
https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-chin...
> a more open Internet outweighed our discomfort in agreeing to censor some results
> We have decided we are no longer willing to continue censoring our results on Google.cn
People seem to forget Google had a notorious record a terrible customer service. And China always demand more.
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China doesn’t officially block any American social media. If you ask your Chinese ISP they say it’s just technical problems. There is probably a list somewhere that is considered a state secret, like the list of banned words and banned books. You do not want to cross China’s broad state secrets law by even pretending to know. Anyways, China should feel proud that this is the first social media app from China that the…
We shouldn't get into a dick measuring contest over who hides more from their citizens. That the Chinese have used our brain worm factories against us, infiltrated our domestic surveillance and wiretapping systems, and let themselves into our completely volitional infrastructure backdoors should only stimulate us to ask why we created such things in the first place. Where's our canary, again?
But I really meant what I said about china probably having pride in TikTok now, being banned by your competitor country really is an achievement.
Nobody has even brought up Europe approach to requiring data on shoring and stricter privacy controls, which is the real way to deal with either issue.
Americans can’t invest directly in Chinese companies and shouldn’t be obligated to host Chinese companies in their markets or be surprised when political whims ban them, since the lack of shared investment is political too. People clearly enjoy the content on there so the outcome is sad but it’s a complicated economic dynamic that is hard to grasp
Reciprocity is key. Google and Facebook and most Western web services are blocked in China. If that is the case, then there should be no complaint with blocking Bytedance/other Chinese apps in the West.
This is such a stupid argument. This is about censorship to American citizens and a conversation about losing their rights as an authoritarian state's victims.
If it was about freedom of speech the gov would have requested all the apps to censor the topics, not banning one app.
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Just like US companies are beholden to national security letters that can compel them to spy on non-US persons who may be users of their product?
If other countries ban US websites for specifically that reason, I applaud them. Especially if they do it without being hypocritical.
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They are blocked because they don’t censor content. If they did agree to, they would be allowed - just like Microsoft, Bing, Apple, and a handful of other digital products are not blocked in China. Edit: for those downvoting me, Google literally shut down their China operations because they were unwilling to comply with censorship requirements. Conversely, Google and other US companies seem completely willing to comp…
"Doesn't censor content" is probably not describing the situation correctly; while some companies like Google have typically resisted such in the aughts, they regularly take requests from other countries of this sort, and it'd be very simple for them to reenter the China market by having a stance similar to what they have for other countries. The issue here is probably caused by the requirement for an ICP recordal wh…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragonfly_(search_engine)
Microsoft Bing has been merrily operating in China for a very long time: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-03-07/microsoft...
Reciprocity is key. Google and Facebook and most Western web services are blocked in China. If that is the case, then there should be no complaint with blocking Bytedance/other Chinese apps in the West.
This is such a stupid argument. This is about censorship to American citizens and a conversation about losing their rights as an authoritarian state's victims.
As there are other services and the only thing being targeted is foreign ownership by members of a country that blocks our services, then no, I don’t think it’s about censorship.
This wasn’t even a ban on TikTok, bytedance could have sold to an American owner but have refused.
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If other countries ban US websites for specifically that reason, I applaud them. Especially if they do it without being hypocritical.
China will not only ban American companies or services next, Xi will probably ban the US dollar.
1) Excellent way to teach millions of people about sideloading overnight. This could be a big win for Android (where sideloading is easy) vs. iPhone were sideloading is impossible (? or only possible only with an annual dev license?) 2) Will this affect apps like CapCut and Lemon8 too?