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Great firewall is one of the worst aspects of China, why do that here?
Banning the sale of a single app controlled by an adversary is building a "Great Firewall" in your book? (Note that it is not even a ban on the app at the ISP level.) There are legit arguments against the policy but this ain't one.
Reciprocity is key. Google and Facebook and most Western web services are blocked in China. If that is the case, then there should be no complaint with blocking Bytedance/other Chinese apps in the West.
Edit: for those downvoting me, Google literally shut down their China operations because they were unwilling to comply with censorship requirements. Conversely, Google and other US companies seem completely willing to comply with national security letters that compel them to spy on non-US persons, which should make other countries where US companies operate equally uneasy.
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Yes! We need to have only American propaganda in the heads of the vulnerable youth of America, and we need to have only Chinese propaganda in the heads of the vulnerable youth of China, and we need to have only Zimbabwean propaganda in the heads of the vulnerable youth of Zimbabwe. And so on and so on, down through all the letters of the alphabet. That'll solve our problems!
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> Are Huawei backdoors part of the active telecom control that China has in the US networks currently? No. There were audits and fond no backdoors in Huawei equipment.
Huawei has a history of spying. China is good at spending money to sweep things under the rug and pretend like it didn’t happen. Look how they are using it to spread propaganda STILL to this day that Covid didn’t originate in Wuhan.
Or do you mean the huawei corp is spreading propaganda of some sort?
Reciprocity is key. Google and Facebook and most Western web services are blocked in China. If that is the case, then there should be no complaint with blocking Bytedance/other Chinese apps in the West.
They are blocked because they don’t censor content. If they did agree to, they would be allowed - just like Microsoft, Bing, Apple, and a handful of other digital products are not blocked in China. Edit: for those downvoting me, Google literally shut down their China operations because they were unwilling to comply with censorship requirements. Conversely, Google and other US companies seem completely willing to comp…
These platforms certainly do censor content. They have large teams globally that do just that.
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60% of Bytedance is owned by American investors https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/26/technology/tiktok-investo... > Susquehanna, a global trading firm, first invested in ByteDance in 2012 and now owns roughly 15 percent of the company, a person familiar with the investment said. The Chinese arm of Sequoia Capital, a Silicon Valley venture capital firm, invested in ByteDance in 2014 when it was valued at $500 million. S…
Literally does not matter. ByteDance is a Chinese company and beholden to the CCP.
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If spying and influencing vulnerable youths is the problem, shouldn't we be getting EU-like privacy laws and anti-social-media laws instead? Youths are just as able to get addicted to chinese-produced content on instagram and youtube as tiktok, and all 3 of those apps use algorithms that optimize for roughly the same thing (making you watch more ads and contents, profit). Other companies collect similar amount of our…
1) this is going to open younger peoples eyes to installing stuff outside of app stores. which i think is a great development. 2) if We believe that social media has the ability to influence to the degree that we’re going to outlaw a company, why tf are we not outlawing all manipulative algorithms, from every country? i absolutely do not magically trust billionaires just because they’re from the US… and i certainly d…
> i absolutely do not magically trust billionaires just because they’re from the US… and i certainly don’t trust them more than i trust any government. there’s reasonable arguments that they’re more dangerous than governments. after everything we’ve seen these social media titans do, it’s absurd to trust them. What does it mean to "trust" them? Right now you are on hacker news, a social media site which is owned by y…
it would seem We have deemed social media to be incredibly dangerous. i’m not yet personally convinced it is, but We apparently decided already. so why are we ignoring other wannabe kings wielding something we deem dangerous?
“Free market”. Such a thing doesn’t really exist.
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They are blocked because they don’t censor content. If they did agree to, they would be allowed - just like Microsoft, Bing, Apple, and a handful of other digital products are not blocked in China. Edit: for those downvoting me, Google literally shut down their China operations because they were unwilling to comply with censorship requirements. Conversely, Google and other US companies seem completely willing to comp…
> They are blocked because they don’t censor content. These platforms certainly do censor content. They have large teams globally that do just that.