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School smartphone ban results in better sleep and improved mood: study

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Post by jorisboris »

andrei_says_ wrote: post #119

I bought something called brick which lets me lock some apps with a Bluetooth app. I have to walk to a different room and touch my phone to the little cube magneted to my fridge in order to unlock them. Just this extra friction has halved my screen time. No phone in bed no phone while I’m working and no phone on weekends while I’m bored. Instant improvement in mental clarity and quality of life.

My best ideas come in my bed

Ideally I have a kale phone to note them

Because it’s too easy to go to social after I noted down my idea

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Post by aziaziazi »

adamtaylor_13 wrote: post #136
bawolff wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Perhaps this could be replicated just by putting phones away at night. Sort of like how people addicted to gambling would probably save a lot of money if they had just a little more will power.

I think the implication is that there are parental authorities who can enforce this. Doesn't take much willpower when you've got people who will help you against your will!

And when effective, double effect with children by building habits

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Post by mattlondon »

safety1st wrote: post #164
andai wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did a project once where I put my phone away before bed (switched off and in another room) and kept it off for the first few hours of the day, along with my wifi router. I usually got so much done during that time that I'd prefer to keep them off for a few more hours, even after I was "allowed" to turn them back on.

Yeah so the smartphones and socials can be difficult addictions to shake, but this is the flip side of it: when you do put them aside for an extended period of time you often see your productivity absolutely go through the roof. I started sticking my phone in my bag or in another room during my afternoon work session and my productivity with that time doubled, in terms of actual output - tasks completed, lines of cod…

> books read, games played,

So that is positive, but reading and playing games on a phone is negative?

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Post by aziaziazi »

Tempest1981 wrote: post #155
lazyasciiart wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or if they just had parents controlling them?

I read somewhere that being the only kid without smartphone access is worse (for mental health) than giving your kid a smartphone. I.e. there needs to be consensus among parents.

Perhaps what relate the study kids was their school, which is probably already existing I guess ?

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Post by card_zero »

makeitdouble wrote: post #150

Again, it's a study that went all the way to monitor kids for 3 weeks, with sleep tracking, the school also helping etc. Minors are involved, so It must have been planned, ethically checked, reviewed and adjusted by experts. And yet no control group. No report on what happened after the 3 weeks ( it should all go back to the similar levels once the ban is lifted, right ? Did it ?) Not all studies can be perfect, but…

There was a control group, according to the site of Stanway school. However the whole thing is very much a TV show, featuring a Big Brother presenter, the bassist from Busted, and a TV doctor who hopes it "kick-starts a national conversation about which aspects of technology use can HELP our children and which aspects are in fact HARMING them." No preconceived ideas there at all, right? But I can't find a paper, with details of the experiment, such as how participants were selected and how they were motivated.

https://stanway.essex.sch.uk/swiped-the-people/

The thought occurs that the participants were being goodie-goodies, pandering to adult concerns, and saying the right things such as "yes I feel much less anxious, also I want to pick litter, save some endangered snails, eat vegetables and be virtuous in every way because all the things adults say are so right, look how responsible I am, praise me".

I guess a better test might be an involuntary one, like a solar storm that knocks the phone network out.

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Post by techNoob123 »

card_zero wrote: post #177

> Interestingly, the research didn’t show significant improvements in cognitive ability; the phone ban group showed a modest 3% boost in working memory, and there were no improvements in sustained attention. Researchers suggest that these results might mean that changes in cognitive ability could take longer than the study period of 21 days to materialise. Notice how they had decided beforehand what they were going t…

yes they had a hypothesis. that’s how science works.

You left out the other benefits the study found. those benefits seem to be quite significant. In fact, I will go as far as to say that sleep has been well associated with student performance.

You remark comes off as disingenuous and not ready for serious review.

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Post by [deleted] »

gregwebs wrote: post #51

> challenged a group of Year 8 pupils to give up their smartphones completely for 21 days. It was not a ban during school. It was complete phone abstinence. The result was that the kids got an entire additional hour of sleep! Perhaps this could be replicated just by putting phones away at night.

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Post by j45 »

card_zero wrote: post #177

> Interestingly, the research didn’t show significant improvements in cognitive ability; the phone ban group showed a modest 3% boost in working memory, and there were no improvements in sustained attention. Researchers suggest that these results might mean that changes in cognitive ability could take longer than the study period of 21 days to materialise. Notice how they had decided beforehand what they were going t…

Cognitive ability may have been growing as it does.. just been allocated elsewhere (scrolling).

Sleep is the real superpower.

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Post by daemonologist »

card_zero wrote: post #177

> Interestingly, the research didn’t show significant improvements in cognitive ability; the phone ban group showed a modest 3% boost in working memory, and there were no improvements in sustained attention. Researchers suggest that these results might mean that changes in cognitive ability could take longer than the study period of 21 days to materialise. Notice how they had decided beforehand what they were going t…

Commonly known as the scientific method.

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Post by jweir »

gregwebs wrote: post #51

> challenged a group of Year 8 pupils to give up their smartphones completely for 21 days. It was not a ban during school. It was complete phone abstinence. The result was that the kids got an entire additional hour of sleep! Perhaps this could be replicated just by putting phones away at night.

Our eldest child has a phone. But it has to be kept downstairs at night - no tech in the bedroom before bed.

Hasn’t been a fight or a problem at all.

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