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> Perhaps this could be replicated just by putting phones away at night. Sort of like how people addicted to gambling would probably save a lot of money if they had just a little more will power.
I think the implication is that there are parental authorities who can enforce this. Doesn't take much willpower when you've got people who will help you against your will!
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they have phones in closets where kids are hiding parents can call to make sure their child is still breathing?! I am 10000% anti-phones in schools but this is silly argument to make. every parent of a child in America worries every day something may happen and when it does time it takes to reach your kid will be the longest time no parent should have to live through
I'm a parent and the last thing I'd want, if heaven forbid there was a school shooter, would be my kid (or any kid) talking on their cell phones or having the phones ringing and making noise that might cause the shooter to go investigate. A parent can literally do nothing about the situation over the phone.
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Its having to get up before noon thats the true problem, they just live in a different timezone
I always laughed at the supposed benefit from moving high school start times an hour later with the claim that teens need more sleep. They'd need to move it three or four hours later; getting up at 8:00 instead of 7:00 is not a big difference when your body wants you to sleep for another three or four hours.
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Are you talking about at schools or generally? Both happen several times per week, neither happen several times per week at schools.
This source [0] says 81 school shootings in the US as of 12/6/24, so while not quite several times per week on average, it's within the margin of error. [0]: https://www.cnn.com/us/school-shootings-fast-facts-dg/index....
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yep, my kids HS has a cloth rack hanging on the door to place phones in so the kids can grab them when a shooting is happening but doesn't have them during class
How often is their a school shooting when this would be useful?
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they have phones in closets where kids are hiding parents can call to make sure their child is still breathing?! I am 10000% anti-phones in schools but this is silly argument to make. every parent of a child in America worries every day something may happen and when it does time it takes to reach your kid will be the longest time no parent should have to live through
I'm a parent and the last thing I'd want, if heaven forbid there was a school shooter, would be my kid (or any kid) talking on their cell phones or having the phones ringing and making noise that might cause the shooter to go investigate. A parent can literally do nothing about the situation over the phone.
this situation is also rehearsed - phone on silent, text only, safe words … hope you never need to be prepared for it
> challenged a group of Year 8 pupils to give up their smartphones completely for 21 days. It was not a ban during school. It was complete phone abstinence. The result was that the kids got an entire additional hour of sleep! Perhaps this could be replicated just by putting phones away at night.
I have a longstanding hunch that the whole “teenagers need more sleep” thing is greatly exaggerated and it’s just that teens just stay up too late because they’re extreme stimulation seekers. Phones have made things worse, but we’ve had TVs, etc for a long time.
That said, the availability of artificial lighting, then the availability of TV, and now the availability of phones have made the problem exponentially worse by removing the natural boundaries that bracket out daytime hours.
I have friends and family who are teachers. As they tell, there’s an obvious bimodal distribution where some kids are going to bed at reasonable times and others are bragging about staying up to completely unreasonable hours. It’s a badge of honor for some to barely sleep at night.
Like most things it comes down to parental involvement. The gulf between students whose parents care and those who let their children do whatever they want is massive.
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guessing you just might not be a parent yet…
When you live in a city with lots of crime and there's a shooting in the parking lot of the school at one in the morning, it's not really something that needs an urgent text from the kids.
And yet no control group. No report on what happened after the 3 weeks ( it should all go back to the similar levels once the ban is lifted, right ? Did it ?)
Not all studies can be perfect, but it feels almost intentional to go these lengths and omit such critical parts. Was this just some checkbox checking study to back a pre decided policy ?