Forcing every adult to exercise 30 minutes a day would probably also have positive health outcomes. But would that be a good enough reason to introduce such a policy?
No. Because it's inappropriate to treat adults like children.
School smartphone ban results in better sleep and improved mood: study
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#32We need to remove technology out of the school entirely (outside of computer science classes). No iPads instead of books, only manual note-taking, regular blackboards/whiteboards instead of projectors, no calculators, and so on.
Non of that paper stuff! Stone tablets only.
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#33I feel like smartphones should be banned but > On average, they were falling asleep 20 minutes faster than before the ban, 20 minutes seems like kind of a small impact.
4% is a pretty big lift imo And who knows how good it is for the quality of that sleep
Indeed, four times greater than the absolute risk reduction of sever illness or death provided by the Covid vaccine (Nb: among adults), which was also mandated in many places
And the connection between sleep quality and early death is very well documented
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#34I feel like smartphones should be banned but > On average, they were falling asleep 20 minutes faster than before the ban, 20 minutes seems like kind of a small impact.
If it’s the daily average then it’s a considerable impact
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#35In Ontario/Canada schools banned cell phones with much of any issue at all this year.
My friends in the US seems shocked at the fact that kids couldn't have a phone during class hours. When I asked why their main issue was that if kids cell phones were in their lockers, how would they text their parents to say they were ok when their school had a shooting.
Which just goes to show how much your environment affects your thinking. I've never once thought or even considered there could be a school shooting at a school here.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
> An important component is solving parent entitlement as well. They are stakeholders, not customers. Only in public schools. At private schools, they are customers, and paradoxically the concomitant “entitlement” is not a bug, but a feature
Private school cohort is a minority, and those kids in the aggregate will do well because of their parents’ wealth, income, and time available. Private school teachers typically are compensated appropriately and empowered as well (as opposed to public teachers who are not). Managing expectations, but also realistic expectations. (home/virtual school two kids under 10 in our family, my observations and perspective fro…
The student-to-teacher ratio there is also wildly different. For example, it's 4:1 at one school in New York[1] vs. the 15:1 national average (it's 12:1 in New York)
[1]: https://www.stbernards.org/about-us/faculty--staff
[2]: https://usafacts.org/data/topics/people-society/education/k-...
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#37In Ontario/Canada schools banned cell phones with much of any issue at all this year. My friends in the US seems shocked at the fact that kids couldn't have a phone during class hours. When I asked why their main issue was that if kids cell phones were in their lockers, how would they text their parents to say they were ok when their school had a shooting. Which just goes to show how much your environment affects you…
yep, my kids HS has a cloth rack hanging on the door to place phones in so the kids can grab them when a shooting is happening but doesn't have them during class
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#38We need to remove technology out of the school entirely (outside of computer science classes). No iPads instead of books, only manual note-taking, regular blackboards/whiteboards instead of projectors, no calculators, and so on.
Non of that paper stuff! Stone tablets only.
Would abaci be too high tech?
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#39I feel like giving teachers and schools more freedoms to implement these things would be a great overall effect. We've seen a large reduction of what teachers are able to do in the last few decades because the school districts have continuously pushed bad policies to protect them against liability and extra work. My parents were both in the school system and every year they would get more rules to protect the distric…
Blaming the “system” is easy but is it the whole picture?
How much of it is due to culture? Teachers in western countries are not as respected as teachers in other parts of the world. A few teachers abuse their authority and that results in outrage and lawsuits from parents, rightfully so.
I can imagine in many schools in the US, if a cellphone ban were to be implemented, there would be a large outcry from parents on how restrictive or overreaching that policy would be. Even if the net positives (as shown in the article) are proven to outweigh the pragmatic concerns (i.e I might need to be in communication with my child) why take the risk?
Not to be supporter of “the man” but it seems unfair to point the finger at a system that takes steps to preserve itself without also acknowledging the hostile environment in which it operates.
Parents have greater zeal in suing the school than they have in attending open board meetings.
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#40In Ontario/Canada schools banned cell phones with much of any issue at all this year. My friends in the US seems shocked at the fact that kids couldn't have a phone during class hours. When I asked why their main issue was that if kids cell phones were in their lockers, how would they text their parents to say they were ok when their school had a shooting. Which just goes to show how much your environment affects you…
> their main issue was that if kids cell phones were in their lockers, how would they text their parents to say they were ok when their school had a shooting.
If the main purpose is just texting with their parents in case of emergency, they could get an old-fashioned pager for that. I heard that these devices are a pretty severe explosion hazard though.