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Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by thefz »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #112
redmajor12 wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like the lesson learned here from reading your travail is not to invest in an ecosystem that makes it difficult to do a standard operation.

Are we reading different comments? Because the only reason he had problems is because he didn't do anything standard. He futzed with his backups instead of letting the OS take care of it, and that's the only reason he had any trouble. If you let Time Machine doing it's thing, restoring from a backup is fast and painless. (Though it's been years since I had to restore a Mac for any reason. It makes me wonder what he w…

I don't think that making a backup unrecoverable from is "doing its thing". I would expect a 1:1 copy of a drive to be less or exactly the drive size.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by sumuyuda »

keyle wrote: post #208

No one really complained with 15.1 and macOS completely blocking software that is "untrusted". You know the "move to bin" popup, which you used to unblock in the past by cmd+clicking the binary, or later via the settings menu for privacy & security (insane in its own right!) Since 15.1, you're done and dusted. Unsigned/untrusted binaries simply will not run on macOS, regardless of how much you trust them to be. Thank…

I haven’t updated to 15, but I thought they just removed the ability to run unsigned software by right clicking and selecting open. My understanding was you had to manually approve it in the system settings via Gatekeeper?

Apple is 100% slowly boiling the frog in respect to locking down macOS to be like iOS. I already switched to Linux on my personal machines. I saw the writing on the wall when notarization was announced in 2017.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by eek2121 »

redmajor12 wrote: post #108
submeta wrote: post #100

This is bad. - Just recently I broke my system badly. So I decided to erase my system and re-setup from time machine. After several unsuccessful attemts I realized that my Time Machine backup (1.45 tb) exceeded my ssd capacity (1 tb). I did research, and learned not to prune my Time Machine backups. As that may corrupt it. So after several days and failed attempts to restore from time machine and after some research…

Sounds like the lesson learned here from reading your travail is not to invest in an ecosystem that makes it difficult to do a standard operation.

You act like other ecosystems are better. They aren’t.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by jb1991 »

deaddodo wrote: post #136
sinfulprogeny wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> GIMP (or Glimpse, if you want a more modern UI) or Krita can definitely do pretty much anything Acorn can. I'm fairly certain that anyone who recommends GIMP hasn't really used GIMP.

I didn't recommend it, I offered three options (one specifically created to fix the exact issue you're probably complaining about - GIMP's horrendous UI)

The problem is, you imply the alternative solutions are somehow just a stand-in replacement, which is not true, and not just with Gimp in the programs you listed. Software matters, and when software you need is not available, it is a significant compromise.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by reddalo »

sinfulprogeny wrote: post #131
deaddodo wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't me trying to convince you to use Linux, but the listed reasons (other than LLM testing) aren't real deterrents (and there are plenty that exist for many people, no use pretending not): > Acorn GIMP (or Glimpse, if you want a more modern UI) or Krita can definitely do pretty much anything Acorn can. > Keyboard Maestro GNOME and KDE have been able to do this out of the box from pretty much the beginning. The…

> GIMP (or Glimpse, if you want a more modern UI) or Krita can definitely do pretty much anything Acorn can. I'm fairly certain that anyone who recommends GIMP hasn't really used GIMP.

Also, Glimpse has been abandoned since 2020.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by thowawatp302 »

eviks wrote: post #121
LeoPanthera wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are we reading different comments? Because the only reason he had problems is because he didn't do anything standard. He futzed with his backups instead of letting the OS take care of it, and that's the only reason he had any trouble. If you let Time Machine doing it's thing, restoring from a backup is fast and painless. (Though it's been years since I had to restore a Mac for any reason. It makes me wonder what he w…

The reason is the opposite - he was doing the standard thing of using the substandard Time Machine for backups, which has been poorly engineered not to allow restoring without pre-pruning > If you let Time Machine doing it's thing Then you can corrupt your whole backup, and then fully restoring becomes impossible instead of long and painless, but possible > It makes me wonder what he was doing He was doing the restor…

> substandard Time Machine for backups

Compared to what?

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by dhfuuvyvtt »

addaon wrote: post #207
LeoPanthera wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are we reading different comments? Because the only reason he had problems is because he didn't do anything standard. He futzed with his backups instead of letting the OS take care of it, and that's the only reason he had any trouble. If you let Time Machine doing it's thing, restoring from a backup is fast and painless. (Though it's been years since I had to restore a Mac for any reason. It makes me wonder what he w…

> restoring from a backup is fast and painless. Had to restore recently. Was painless, but most definitely not fast. Took 24 - 36 hours to restore a 1 TB drive with < 400 GB in use after restore.

Takes me around an hour or so to restore a 2tb drive from a HDD NAS with borg. Wasn't a full 2tb, and I might be off by an hour or so as it's been a minute. Usually I dd from the old drive to the new one over USB which doesn't take too long 30-40 minutes?

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by RandomThoughts3 »

not_a_shill wrote: post #199
deaddodo wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't me trying to convince you to use Linux, but the listed reasons (other than LLM testing) aren't real deterrents (and there are plenty that exist for many people, no use pretending not): > Acorn GIMP (or Glimpse, if you want a more modern UI) or Krita can definitely do pretty much anything Acorn can. > Keyboard Maestro GNOME and KDE have been able to do this out of the box from pretty much the beginning. The…

Libreoffice isn't the alternative, office on web is. And even that is still gimped compared to Windows Excel. (Which is the true killer app for professional use of Windows in general)

Yes, I find it fun to use office as a Mac differentiator when the Mac version is so inferior to the Windows one. At least, office365 works fine on Linux using Crossover.

It’s the same weirdness with people recommending Gimp for Acorn when Linux has great photo manipulation with Darktable and good digital painting with Krita.

And I say that as someone who quite like MacOs even if it’s getting worse with each version.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by foderking »

hmottestad wrote: post #117
redmajor12 wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like the lesson learned here from reading your travail is not to invest in an ecosystem that makes it difficult to do a standard operation.

Sounds a bit too simplistic. Apple is about the only company that allows you to run any decently sized LLMs on a laptop. They also have all day battery life, amazing single-threaded performance and great multicore performance. And they didn’t stop there, they also threw in a truly fantastic display and speakers that are so far ahead of any competitors that I wonder what kind of magic they have that no other laptop br…

idk about the LLM part, but the rest of this is not true. there's multiple laptops that compete or even beat MacBooks in display, battery life, performance etc. and the MacBook displays have really slow response times

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by reddalo »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #143
sinfulprogeny wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> GIMP (or Glimpse, if you want a more modern UI) or Krita can definitely do pretty much anything Acorn can. I'm fairly certain that anyone who recommends GIMP hasn't really used GIMP.

I have been using gimp for almost a decade now. Granted, I am not a professional in that field, but why would I not recommend it ? It does everything I want to, and more.

I've been using GIMP for 20 years now, but the UI is atrocious; you can tell it's been designed by engineers who know nothing about UX.

Even the most basic UI elements, such as the slider bars, are horrible and unusable.

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