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macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by adrian_b »

rolisz wrote: post #152
talldayo wrote: post #123

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> Apple is about the only company that allows you to run any decently sized LLMs on a laptop Comments like these make me wonder if people even use different computers anymore or if they just say stuff and hope that it's right.

Please, do tell me where else can I run 32b models locally without quantization

If you do not care about speed, pretty much everywhere.

On any other computers with integrated GPU you can have more memory than on Apple computers, where memory is abnormally expensive.

The main advantage of the current Apple computers is a wider interface with memory, which provides a better memory throughput for their integrated GPUs.

In 2025 it is expected that others will catch up with Apple even from this point of view (e.g. AMD Strix Halo).

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

eviks wrote: post #46
xyst wrote: post #17

Apple just can’t add features to their OS without breaking existing ones. Probably used Apple Intelligence to QA the OS release. Steve Jobs would be disgusted at what his company has become. “Just works”, my ass

The myth of Jobs would be disgusted, the real guy shipped the same

Or worse even. Early versions of OS/X were very buggy. I think people look back at that era through rose tinted glasses.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by akvadrako »

n144q wrote: post #67
kelnos wrote: post #32

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And not just that: if an update breaks my Linux install, I can figure out what broke it and roll back to an older version. Rolling back updates on macOS or Windows is just... not really a thing, at least not without a full reinstall, assuming you even have installation media for older versions these days.

You can. Most Linux users can't -- I say 90%, if not 99%. Most Linux users are just users, many of which don't know how to use tar or xargs without looking it up, very few have the technical knowledge and capability of figuring out "what broke it".

Rollbacks on image based distros like Fedora Silverblue are as easy as selecting the old version on boot. Literally hitting down and enter.

Besides that, you never wait for updates to install.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by defrost »

CalRobert wrote: post #173
tap-snap-or-nap wrote: post #88

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Can't find any Scotsman in Australia, let alone a true one.

Weird, I’m pretty sure plenty of Scots are in Australia. https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/what-we-do/whm-program/lates...

Bon Scott didn't do a lot of PC support, but he did have a hand built amplifier from one of the early legends of the BBS scene.

https://trevormarshall.com/bon.htm

http://www.bbsdocumentary.com/photos/104marshall/index.html

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by jinnko »

deaddodo wrote: post #115
submeta wrote: post #111

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Maybe. But what are the options? Windows? Not really. Linux/Debian/Ubuntu is great, in theory, but it lacks tools: Acorn, Keyboard Maestro, OnniGraffle, Alfred App, MS Office, MS Teams, and a dozen more. Plus Apple silicon. I test LLMs locally.

This isn't me trying to convince you to use Linux, but the listed reasons (other than LLM testing) aren't real deterrents (and there are plenty that exist for many people, no use pretending not): > Acorn GIMP (or Glimpse, if you want a more modern UI) or Krita can definitely do pretty much anything Acorn can. > Keyboard Maestro GNOME and KDE have been able to do this out of the box from pretty much the beginning. The…

A bit of nostalgia.

Switch to whatever you want https://youtu.be/9GO3mccvTCs

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by Cumpiler69 »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #161
inetknght wrote: post #77

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> to the cloud to locally Requires payment for backup of any meaningful size. > locally to your own storage I don't own a mac. I own Linux. How do I backup iOS to my device? How do I restore it?

>I own Linux. That's the trouble with these niche desktop platforms, people don't write software for them.

Is windows also niche?

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by throwaway48476 »

submeta wrote: post #100

This is bad. - Just recently I broke my system badly. So I decided to erase my system and re-setup from time machine. After several unsuccessful attemts I realized that my Time Machine backup (1.45 tb) exceeded my ssd capacity (1 tb). I did research, and learned not to prune my Time Machine backups. As that may corrupt it. So after several days and failed attempts to restore from time machine and after some research…

You chose the walled garden.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by eastbound »

yupyupyups wrote: post #175
sinfulprogeny wrote: post #131

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> GIMP (or Glimpse, if you want a more modern UI) or Krita can definitely do pretty much anything Acorn can. I'm fairly certain that anyone who recommends GIMP hasn't really used GIMP.

GIMP 3.0 is going to be released soon. That might interest you.

Ousted the front door, coming back by the backdoor:

- “Maybe you’re using it wrong”

- “It has greatly improved since Gimp 2.0”,

- “It’s just doing things differently”

- “It has 90% of the features of MS Office”

seem to be the top arguments for trying Linux over Mac, again for the 20th time in 20 years, each time awfully bad. As Steve Jobs once said about Microsoft: “The problem is these people have no taste.” It’s correct that when you have no need for something to be beautiful or no need to be productive between two recompilations of the kernel, then Linux is the OS of choice.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by Jnr »

submeta wrote: post #111
redmajor12 wrote: post #108

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Sounds like the lesson learned here from reading your travail is not to invest in an ecosystem that makes it difficult to do a standard operation.

Maybe. But what are the options? Windows? Not really. Linux/Debian/Ubuntu is great, in theory, but it lacks tools: Acorn, Keyboard Maestro, OnniGraffle, Alfred App, MS Office, MS Teams, and a dozen more. Plus Apple silicon. I test LLMs locally.

And here I am running Linux on M1 Macbook. Graphical interface is superior, native docker support is superior, development experience is superior, backups for sure are superior than Time Machine. For work purposes online office on the web is sufficient. It is not for everyone (like photographers), but for software developers it works very nicely.
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