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macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by eviks »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #112
redmajor12 wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like the lesson learned here from reading your travail is not to invest in an ecosystem that makes it difficult to do a standard operation.

Are we reading different comments? Because the only reason he had problems is because he didn't do anything standard. He futzed with his backups instead of letting the OS take care of it, and that's the only reason he had any trouble. If you let Time Machine doing it's thing, restoring from a backup is fast and painless. (Though it's been years since I had to restore a Mac for any reason. It makes me wonder what he w…

The reason is the opposite - he was doing the standard thing of using the substandard Time Machine for backups, which has been poorly engineered not to allow restoring without pre-pruning

> If you let Time Machine doing it's thing

Then you can corrupt your whole backup, and then fully restoring becomes impossible instead of long and painless, but possible

> It makes me wonder what he was doing

He was doing the restore recently, not many years ago

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by josephcsible »

ClassyJacket wrote: post #81
alwayslikethis wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the worst things about the move to smartphones is the inability to make full backups. I don't understand. It's my own device, all the data belongs to me, and I should be able to back it up whenever I want.

Even worse, now some apps are not allowing screenshots. That's bullshit, it's my phone, I should be able to screenshot whatever the hell I want.

I'm not sure why you're being downvoted. You're 100% right. Android lets apps block screenshots with FLAG_SECURE, and iOS does too with https://github.com/JayantBadlani/ScreenShield, and neither one gives the owner of the phone a way to override that.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by talldayo »

hmottestad wrote: post #117
redmajor12 wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like the lesson learned here from reading your travail is not to invest in an ecosystem that makes it difficult to do a standard operation.

Sounds a bit too simplistic. Apple is about the only company that allows you to run any decently sized LLMs on a laptop. They also have all day battery life, amazing single-threaded performance and great multicore performance. And they didn’t stop there, they also threw in a truly fantastic display and speakers that are so far ahead of any competitors that I wonder what kind of magic they have that no other laptop br…

> Apple is about the only company that allows you to run any decently sized LLMs on a laptop

Comments like these make me wonder if people even use different computers anymore or if they just say stuff and hope that it's right.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by hmottestad »

submeta wrote: post #100

This is bad. - Just recently I broke my system badly. So I decided to erase my system and re-setup from time machine. After several unsuccessful attemts I realized that my Time Machine backup (1.45 tb) exceeded my ssd capacity (1 tb). I did research, and learned not to prune my Time Machine backups. As that may corrupt it. So after several days and failed attempts to restore from time machine and after some research…

When I last restored from Time Machine it allowed me to select which folders I wanted to restore. Then I could just restore the most important bits and leave anything big behind on the backup drive to restore manually later.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/102551

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by lxgr »

griomnib wrote: post #64
lxgr wrote: post #2

What is this about? I seem to be missing a lot of context. > Apple broke the replicator. What's the replicator? > What this means is this: until Apple fixes the bug, you'll have to use "Backup - all files" with "Smart Update" to copy everything but the OS. Use that where? Is that an option in some macOS tool?

Apple’s built-in backup solution is called Time Machine. It was dogshit when it launched a decade ago, never got more reliable despite many OS releases, and is still largely dogshit. The author of the blog makes an application that is very good at making backups on macOS and now their app is broken due to skullduggery by Apple. So the issue is threefold: a) Apple further turning MascOS into iPhone, b) this harms comp…

Time Machine is really quite good, all things considered.

I’d be very happy if Apple were to bring it to iOS, but obviously they’ll never cannibalise their iCloud storage subscription business.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by eviks »

deaddodo wrote: post #115
submeta wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe. But what are the options? Windows? Not really. Linux/Debian/Ubuntu is great, in theory, but it lacks tools: Acorn, Keyboard Maestro, OnniGraffle, Alfred App, MS Office, MS Teams, and a dozen more. Plus Apple silicon. I test LLMs locally.

This isn't me trying to convince you to use Linux, but the listed reasons (other than LLM testing) aren't real deterrents (and there are plenty that exist for many people, no use pretending not): > Acorn GIMP (or Glimpse, if you want a more modern UI) or Krita can definitely do pretty much anything Acorn can. > Keyboard Maestro GNOME and KDE have been able to do this out of the box from pretty much the beginning. The…

> aren't real deterrents

They are, because your listed alternatives are substandard. Just the fact you recommend incompatible LibreOffice as an MS Office alternative is enough, but then comparing KM to system defaults is also a joke.

> The OSes are still mostly terminal-first

And terminals are universally so bad at shortcuts that many can't even support all the modifiers keys on your keyboard

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by j16sdiz »

deaddodo wrote: post #115
submeta wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe. But what are the options? Windows? Not really. Linux/Debian/Ubuntu is great, in theory, but it lacks tools: Acorn, Keyboard Maestro, OnniGraffle, Alfred App, MS Office, MS Teams, and a dozen more. Plus Apple silicon. I test LLMs locally.

This isn't me trying to convince you to use Linux, but the listed reasons (other than LLM testing) aren't real deterrents (and there are plenty that exist for many people, no use pretending not): > Acorn GIMP (or Glimpse, if you want a more modern UI) or Krita can definitely do pretty much anything Acorn can. > Keyboard Maestro GNOME and KDE have been able to do this out of the box from pretty much the beginning. The…

> > Acorn

> GIMP (or Glimpse, if you want a more modern UI) or Krita can definitely do pretty much anything Acorn can.

You will be surprised to know how some professional treat their tools.

Some illustrator love their software just like some mathematician love their chalk. Many woodworker make their own tools to make them feel just right.

> > MS Office

> LibreOffice would be the common alternative.

If you export them as PDF, maybe. If you need to exchange editable file with others, every small layout different hurts. You won't want your tables paginate differently from others.

Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by [deleted] »

eviks wrote: post #127
deaddodo wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't me trying to convince you to use Linux, but the listed reasons (other than LLM testing) aren't real deterrents (and there are plenty that exist for many people, no use pretending not): > Acorn GIMP (or Glimpse, if you want a more modern UI) or Krita can definitely do pretty much anything Acorn can. > Keyboard Maestro GNOME and KDE have been able to do this out of the box from pretty much the beginning. The…

> aren't real deterrents They are, because your listed alternatives are substandard. Just the fact you recommend incompatible LibreOffice as an MS Office alternative is enough, but then comparing KM to system defaults is also a joke. > The OSes are still mostly terminal-first And terminals are universally so bad at shortcuts that many can't even support all the modifiers keys on your keyboard

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Re: macOS 15.2 breaks the ability to copy the OS to another drive

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Post by talldayo »

exabrial wrote: post #125

This is a perfect move from an environmentally focused company! This will totally help reduce ewaste and anyone supporting the environment should totally absolutely undeniably without question of common sense just buy all of their products!!!!!!!!!

Mother Nature just got a call that her first check cleared, she's very excited for the future of Apple's courageous new direction for e-waste management.
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