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Re: Microsoft Discontinues iMac Rival Surface Studio 2

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Post by com2kid » Fri, Dec 13, 2024, 6:04 AM UTC

HatchedLake721 wrote: post #2

Surface Studio introduction from 2017, still looks amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-VvFlwsWic

I remember how proud I felt to work at Microsoft when that video was unveiled. The company had made something so beautiful, and then done an amazing job showing it to the world.

An amazing marketing video in every way that counts, except apparently in regards to sales!

Re: Microsoft Discontinues iMac Rival Surface Studio 2

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Post by cosmic_cheese » Fri, Dec 13, 2024, 6:08 AM UTC

bmitc wrote: post #19

neya wrote: post #10

Microsoft's problem has never been their hardware. You can argue their Surface and Surface pro line up is far far a better feat of engineering (stuffing a full blown desktop grade processor into a mobile tablet) than any iPad Pro. However, their achilles heel has always been their software. Though Windows has improved a lot over the years, its shitty data collection and privacy practices and changing around of UI ele…

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I believe that this is a much more subjective thing than it’s often presented as. macOS is where all of my work gets done. I can make Linux work if I have to with enough beating and banging (not the smoothest process), but I would go mad if I had to be productive under Windows. It’s why on my machines Windows is relegated purely to game duty.

Re: Microsoft Discontinues iMac Rival Surface Studio 2

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Post by dymk » Fri, Dec 13, 2024, 6:10 AM UTC

bmitc wrote: post #19

neya wrote: post #10

Microsoft's problem has never been their hardware. You can argue their Surface and Surface pro line up is far far a better feat of engineering (stuffing a full blown desktop grade processor into a mobile tablet) than any iPad Pro. However, their achilles heel has always been their software. Though Windows has improved a lot over the years, its shitty data collection and privacy practices and changing around of UI ele…

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I can recall once or twice where an application broke in my decade of having Apple products. The hyperbole isn’t needed.

Re: Microsoft Discontinues iMac Rival Surface Studio 2

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Post by spiderfarmer » Fri, Dec 13, 2024, 6:10 AM UTC

StressedDev wrote: post #6

karlgkk wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having used one for about 18 months put me off the entire surface lineup. It sure was good looking though.

What put you off?

For me? Windows. How can people be productive on an OS that doesn’t allow you to focus.

Re: Microsoft Discontinues iMac Rival Surface Studio 2

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Post by gamblor956 » Fri, Dec 13, 2024, 6:14 AM UTC

spiderfarmer wrote: post #24

StressedDev wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What put you off?

For me? Windows. How can people be productive on an OS that doesn’t allow you to focus.

Hundreds of millions of people manage to be productive on Windows.

Re: Microsoft Discontinues iMac Rival Surface Studio 2

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Post by sleepybrett » Fri, Dec 13, 2024, 6:21 AM UTC

com2kid wrote: post #21

HatchedLake721 wrote: post #2

Surface Studio introduction from 2017, still looks amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-VvFlwsWic

I remember how proud I felt to work at Microsoft when that video was unveiled. The company had made something so beautiful, and then done an amazing job showing it to the world. An amazing marketing video in every way that counts, except apparently in regards to sales!

then they ignored the line, had to make a special build of windows 11 to run on it...

I have no idea why they keep doing this shit with hardware over and over.

Re: Microsoft Discontinues iMac Rival Surface Studio 2

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Post by sleepybrett » Fri, Dec 13, 2024, 6:22 AM UTC

gamblor956 wrote: post #25

spiderfarmer wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me? Windows. How can people be productive on an OS that doesn’t allow you to focus.

Hundreds of millions of people manage to be productive on Windows.

do they really, or is windows just what they use to launch excel?

I don't know a single software developer that prefers windows anymore.

Re: Microsoft Discontinues iMac Rival Surface Studio 2

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Post by sleepybrett » Fri, Dec 13, 2024, 6:26 AM UTC

philwelch wrote: post #16

neya wrote: post #10

Microsoft's problem has never been their hardware. You can argue their Surface and Surface pro line up is far far a better feat of engineering (stuffing a full blown desktop grade processor into a mobile tablet) than any iPad Pro. However, their achilles heel has always been their software. Though Windows has improved a lot over the years, its shitty data collection and privacy practices and changing around of UI ele…

> You can argue their Surface and Surface pro line up is far far a better feat of engineering (stuffing a full blown desktop grade processor into a mobile tablet) than any iPad Pro. Can you clarify this point? iPad Pro has an M4 processor, just like Mac desktops do.

imo ipad is held back by it's OS. Until they make significant changes it's a one app at a time box to keep you kid busy w/ movies or roblox. The multi app features they have added feel like a straight jacket.

I'd like an option for a real pro ipad running macos instead of ios.

Re: Microsoft Discontinues iMac Rival Surface Studio 2

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Post by seanmcdirmid » Fri, Dec 13, 2024, 6:29 AM UTC

adolph wrote: post #9

HatchedLake721 wrote: post #2

Surface Studio introduction from 2017, still looks amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-VvFlwsWic

Hard to believe Surface kicked off 16 short years ago https://youtu.be/Zxk_WywMTzc

That surface was unrelated to the tablets and computers that reused the name afterwards. Still, that was an awesome tech at the time, multi touch and multi user, I made some great demos for it.

Re: Microsoft Discontinues iMac Rival Surface Studio 2

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Post by thorncorona » Fri, Dec 13, 2024, 6:30 AM UTC

sleepybrett wrote: post #27

gamblor956 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hundreds of millions of people manage to be productive on Windows.

do they really, or is windows just what they use to launch excel? I don't know a single software developer that prefers windows anymore.

Most of the software world is on Windows.