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Re: Timemap.org – Interactive Map of History

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Post by zamadatix »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #91
ikurei wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The map doesn't go that close to the present. "Northern" was added to the name in 2019, before it was just Republic of Macedonia. > "The Prespa agreement of June 2018 saw the country change its name to the "Republic of North Macedonia" eight months later." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Macedonia

The UN recognised name before the Prespa agreement was "former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia_naming_dispute

This user does seem to be correct despite the (at least current) reception of their report, e.g. see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Member_states_of_...

I agree it probably makes sense for the map to use UN recognized names of the time for times the UN was around and had recognized names for. Whether or not it's the absolute best answer in a given situation... it at least provides a definitive source to defer to for the modern period where the most debates might come from. For more historic names other methods need to be used and blended to the modern names which is sure to be a treat of user debate :).

Re: Timemap.org – Interactive Map of History

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Post by leobg »

WillAdams wrote: post #46

It is surprisingly difficult to study history chronologically when one gets beyond the scope of a given text/item due to overlap. When I was still reading to my children in the evening, after running through all the standard texts (Narnia, _The Hobbit_, _The Lord of the Rings_, Susan Cooper's _The Dark is Rising_, H. Beam Piper's _Little Fuzzy_, &c.), I decided I wanted to read biographies to them, in chronological o…

Asimov was a machine. What did he not write about? Materials, space, science & exploration, physics, the Bible.

They say Goethe was one of the last people in history who was still able to understand everything that was known up to then. It seems to me Asimov was as close to that as possible 200 years later.

Anyone here know a writer of our time who can match that?

Re: Timemap.org – Interactive Map of History

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Post by tonymet »

Beautiful app and thank you to the developers

Contemporary-ism is one of the most severe cognitive blind-spots. We have a tendency to see the past from today's perspective -- today's borders, norms, regimes, languages, ethnicities.

Nearly all of the countries today didn't exist 200 years ago, not to mention 600 years ago. Even the ones that share the same names had different ethnicities, regimes, languages, cultures, religions. They were hardly the same people. What was "Germany" or "Poland" 200 years ago?

Look at Lithuania in 1400 . One of the greatest kingdoms of Europe for centuries. Today most people look at Lithuania as a tiny , former soviet country (Sorry Lithanians, I don't , but it's true).

What will people think of the UK in 100 years?

https://www.oldmapsonline.org/en/history/rulers#position=3.7...

Re: Timemap.org – Interactive Map of History

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Post by ascorbic »

klokan wrote: post #59

Hi HN! I’m Klokan, one of the creators of TimeMap. It’s exciting to see this project here — thank you for the interest and support! We just launched TimeMap on Product Hunt: https://www.producthunt.com/posts/timemap If you find what we’re building valuable, an UPVOTE there would mean a lot. Stanford University recently hosted an event to introduce TimeMap to the world, which you can check out here: * Recording on You…

The is such a great project. I am a little confused by the oldmapsonline.org/timemap.org thing. Are they different names for the same thing? Why is the title timemap.org, when the URL is different?

Re: Timemap.org – Interactive Map of History

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Post by WillAdams »

leobg wrote: post #122
WillAdams wrote: post #46

It is surprisingly difficult to study history chronologically when one gets beyond the scope of a given text/item due to overlap. When I was still reading to my children in the evening, after running through all the standard texts (Narnia, _The Hobbit_, _The Lord of the Rings_, Susan Cooper's _The Dark is Rising_, H. Beam Piper's _Little Fuzzy_, &c.), I decided I wanted to read biographies to them, in chronological o…

Asimov was a machine. What did he not write about? Materials, space, science & exploration, physics, the Bible. They say Goethe was one of the last people in history who was still able to understand everything that was known up to then. It seems to me Asimov was as close to that as possible 200 years later. Anyone here know a writer of our time who can match that?

Yeah, I'm finishing up a compleat collection of J.R.R. Tolkien's writings, and am probably going to collect (and read/re-read) all of Isaac Asimov's non-fiction.

There are at least five books with the (partial) title _The Last Man Who Knew Everything_ about:

- Leibniz https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15770928-the-last-man-wh...

- Athanasius Kircher https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/119131.Athanasius_Kirche...

- Thomas Young https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/763029.The_Last_Man_Who_...

- Joseph Leidy https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/119125.Joseph_Leidy

- Enrico Fermi https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34746094-the-last-man-wh...

Maybe instead I'll start with those biographies...

surprised Sir Francis Bacon wasn't described thus....

Re: Timemap.org – Interactive Map of History

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Post by deadbabe »

This map is really great for understanding world history, you can learn a lot just by scrolling back and forth and see how it all fits together.

I wish it would have other items though like wars and points of interest, inventions/discoveries, maybe ships on famous voyages, etc.

Re: Timemap.org – Interactive Map of History

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Post by hosh »

Trmpos wrote: post #114
hosh wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is in dispute and depends on which party is in power, by the year. Until general elections were opened up in the late 80s, it was definitely the Republic of China.

Which party in power ever changed the constitutional name? It's always been the Republic of China.

The Democratic Progressive Party led coalition would change the name on the passport the government issues when it is in power. It would revert back when the Koumingtang led coalition comes back into power. It falls in line with what the constituents want, and it isn't as if opinions of the citizens are uniform or a clear majority.

The situation is fairly complex.

Since this is intended as a historical map going beyond the Bronze Age, there weren't always a thing called a constitution or international law. So while this does apply to whether we call this polity, "Taiwan, ROC" or "ROC" or "Taiwan", whether something is constitutional or not will not always apply historically.

Re: Timemap.org – Interactive Map of History

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Post by hosh »

dewey wrote: post #104
grahamj wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes I'd like to report the error of Taiwan being labeled "Republic of China"

Take a look at what is written on a Taiwanese passport.

That changes depending on when it is issued, and which coalition is in power when that passport was issued.
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