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Post by 4gotunameagain »

ikurei wrote: post #77
4gotunameagain wrote: post #74

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Where is the Feedback button ? It is not shown in my map. There is a mistake, The "Northern" is missing from the Republic of Northern Macedonia.

The map doesn't go that close to the present. "Northern" was added to the name in 2019, before it was just Republic of Macedonia. > "The Prespa agreement of June 2018 saw the country change its name to the "Republic of North Macedonia" eight months later." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Macedonia

The UN recognised name before the Prespa agreement was "former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia_naming_dispute

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Post by hosh »

grahamj wrote: post #87
egorfine wrote: post #65

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Hi! It's done beautifully but there are some... inconsistencies. Is there a process to provide feedback and correct errors on the map?

Yes I'd like to report the error of Taiwan being labeled "Republic of China"

That is in dispute and depends on which party is in power, by the year. Until general elections were opened up in the late 80s, it was definitely the Republic of China.

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Post by sieabahlpark »

klokan wrote: post #59

Hi HN! I’m Klokan, one of the creators of TimeMap. It’s exciting to see this project here — thank you for the interest and support! We just launched TimeMap on Product Hunt: https://www.producthunt.com/posts/timemap If you find what we’re building valuable, an UPVOTE there would mean a lot. Stanford University recently hosted an event to introduce TimeMap to the world, which you can check out here: * Recording on You…

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Post by carderne »

sofixa wrote: post #86
carderne wrote: post #31

There's a great big coffee table version of this [1]. As always though, I wish there were a way to show not just which "nation" ostensibly controlled an area, but what _people_ were actually there: what languages, cultures and gods actually held sway in each of these areas and times. [1] https://www.dk.com/uk/book/9780241226148-history-of-the-worl...

> As always though, I wish there were a way to show not just which "nation" ostensibly controlled an area, but what _people_ were actually there: what languages, cultures and gods actually held sway in each of these areas and times That is pretty hard to do, because nationalism wasn't really a thing before the 19th century in Europe. So how do you identify 18th century people living in Wallonia under the HRE or Nethe…

That’s kind of my point. That’s the interesting stuff (the fact that Macedonia at some point nominally controlled Kyrgyzstan is much less interesting imo) but it’s much too complex (and unrecorded) to convey in a satisfying way.

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Post by oskarkk »

GiorgioG wrote: post #55
otabdeveloper4 wrote: post #19

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History is by definition nitpicking. History without nits picked is called "ideology" or "myth".

Call me crazy but I've never seen 'nitpicking' in the definition of history: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/history

GP meant that researching history necessitates doubting every claim, and never taking what any historical source says at face value.

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Post by sofixa »

carderne wrote: post #94
sofixa wrote: post #86

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> As always though, I wish there were a way to show not just which "nation" ostensibly controlled an area, but what _people_ were actually there: what languages, cultures and gods actually held sway in each of these areas and times That is pretty hard to do, because nationalism wasn't really a thing before the 19th century in Europe. So how do you identify 18th century people living in Wallonia under the HRE or Nethe…

That’s kind of my point. That’s the interesting stuff (the fact that Macedonia at some point nominally controlled Kyrgyzstan is much less interesting imo) but it’s much too complex (and unrecorded) to convey in a satisfying way.

And it was rarely clear enough on the ground, let alone in the little available data. Just in the first quarter of the 20th century there were a ton of conflicts all over Europe to try to clarify borders based on different interpretations of identity based on culture/religion/language/history.

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Post by elaus »

GiorgioG wrote: post #16

All the nitpicking here is insane. Can we all just appreciate the work that went into this?

I'm also puzzled by many of the comments that are (for HN standards) exceptionally angry and dismissive.

Yeah, apparently the data is incomplete and there are some errors/disputes. But that will always be the case when processing huge amounts of data in a way that's never done before. I'd hope we could provide more helpful feedback (what _exactly_ is incorrect and what is the source of the correct information).

Edit: upon closer inspection I found many of the comments originating from the same users, so maybe it's just a very passionate topic for a small but vocal group.

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Post by bhupy »

klokan wrote: post #59

Hi HN! I’m Klokan, one of the creators of TimeMap. It’s exciting to see this project here — thank you for the interest and support! We just launched TimeMap on Product Hunt: https://www.producthunt.com/posts/timemap If you find what we’re building valuable, an UPVOTE there would mean a lot. Stanford University recently hosted an event to introduce TimeMap to the world, which you can check out here: * Recording on You…

This has been a dream project of mine too, so happy to see that it exists.

One thing that I've also wanted was to be able to reason about the total timeline using the Holocene calendar[1] instead of the standard BC/BCE AD/CE timeline. It makes it easier to internalize how long ago (or how recent) certain civilizations were without having to do the wrap-around math in one's head. Would be nice to be able to maybe toggle that view.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_calendar

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