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Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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If you wanted to find out whose they are, just follow them and see where they land, and who picks them up?

> just follow them How exactly do you follow a fixed-wing drone? Some of the high-end/industrial drones has pretty impressive ranges.

Well, there's a lot of evidence that humans evolved to be persistence hunters, so we just need to continue this process and adapt further.

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I live in NJ. I've seen these drones. They are not commercial airliners or helicopters. They are loud, fly low and slow, and make abrupt turns unlike any planes I've seen. Their lights are also very different from other aircraft. I can see how it's tempting to chalk this up to hysteria, but they are absolutely large drones of some kind.

Please take my upvote for your first hand account over someone's speculation. What do they sound like?

It contains speculation about their height and speed. You usually can't estimate those things for a UFO because near, low, and slow looks the same as far, high and fast when you have no idea how big it is or how it "should" behave.

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A practical question, beyond the questions of whose drones these are: what are they looking for?

They're just looking for the Situation or Snooki out on the Shore. Someone forgot to tell them what decade it is.

The Situation always reminds me of Date Mike. "I'm date mike! How do you like your eggs in the morning?" is something he would definitely say.

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Hiding in plain sight is also a thing.

So is sowing mass hysteria and deepening distrust in authorities.

Well that's the natural result of not doing anything meaningful against Russia and its "plausible deniability" campaigns in well over a decade. Of course Russia and China feel emboldened when they never felt consequences.

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> How can anyone know these aren't a threat without knowing whose they are They are - obviously - lying. This screams secrecy to me. All 3 know that these drones are not a threat. They aren't US military because they are a 3 letter agency program. They know there's nothing to worry about it, but they won't tell you any more details. Which has been the modus operandi for secret services for decades, so I'm surprised i…

I think what's so surprising is that they would run a secretive program in such a conspicuous manner, not that the secretive program exists.

Can you think of a better way to normalize it? Think about the average persons response to online privacy these days for a good indicator about how people will feel about drone monitoring in a few years if this is normalized.

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Long time member here and not a kook. From what I understand of the situation, I will stake the claim that the Galactic federation stuff is closest to the truth of what's happening here. It's wild to suggest, I know. It will not be possible for most members of the community who don't follow the UAP phenomenon to understand why. But all of of the information is out there, and if this event catalizes curiosity in you,…

Got it. How do you explain why these drones have green and red aviation lights and headlights? The aliens are abiding by FAA regulations now?

The lore theory is this: that there is a sort of trickster phenomenon at play whose goal is to subvert our understanding of the physical world, and to get us to start asking metaphysical questions about the nature of reality. Questions that can only be answered by "looking within".

This is called the control system hypothesis, coined by renowned ufologist Jacques Vallees: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/rn650p/a_lot_of_big_n...

For more on the green and red aviation lights and how it is not as it appears: https://reddit.com/comments/1hc8ll6/comment/m1mu204

> Interestingly, almost all of the objects posted to this and similar subs (especially /r/NJDrones) violate FAA requirements in one or more obvious ways.

For more historical occurrences of similar orb mimicry 25 years ago: https://reddit.com/comments/1hauztd/comment/m1bj7gg

And another event from the 1800s of craft that is era-appropriate, mimicking airships of the time: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1hcdb6w/these_drone_s...

I'm aware how crazy all of this sounds to the uninitiated. But I've studied the phenomenon from all angles. At this point the most parsimonious explanations trend towards the fantastical. Of course we can still be wrong, but as the OP says, as time comes and more events of this sort come to light, I think it will eventually lead to the inescapable conclusion that the world and our place in it may not be as it seems.

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> I live in NJ. I've seen these drones. They are not commercial airliners or helicopters. They are loud, fly low and slow, and make abrupt turns unlike any planes I've seen. Their lights are also very different from other aircraft. You better crank out your camera and collect any proof at all,because what you are describing bears no resemblance to the sightings mentioned in the article. There is a reason why sighting…

For real, with everyone having a smartphone with high quality cameras on them there really is zero excuse for there to not be highly detailed accurate videos of this if they are legit especially with people describing them as "low and slow".

Smartphone cameras are absolutely useless when it comes to taking useful pictures of distant, moving objects. Even a proper DSLR is extremely difficult to use on a moving object at night due to focus issues.

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The ones shown in video all emit light. I'm sure if I had something nefarious in mind that wasn't spreading fear among passers by, I'd turn the damn drone lights off. They behave like their owners want them to be seen.

It's quite possible their only task is to fly around and make sure people see them, as a form of less violent terrorism that rather counts on news channels and social media to spread fear.

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If you wanted to find out whose they are, just follow them and see where they land, and who picks them up?

> just follow them How exactly do you follow a fixed-wing drone? Some of the high-end/industrial drones has pretty impressive ranges.

You pay a bunch of money to someone who has a Dash 8 or similar common commercial aircraft. These drones probably don't have 1000mi range.

And even if you can't follow one all the way to its destination you can still take some real good pictures with flash and plaster them all over the news and wait for someone to say "I pump fuel and sweep floors at airport X and a bunch of dickbags with black suburbans and bad attitudes have a hanger full of those things".

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