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Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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Quick summary after following this for a few days: FBI says they're rotary and fixed-wing drones, White House says they aren't foreign adversaries, Pentagon says they aren't USA military, all 3 insist that there's no indication of a real threat despite the drones being bigger and higher tech than retail drones. Politicians are PO'd that something about this doesn't add up: How can anyone know these aren't a threat wi…

I guess the CIA/NSA are technically not "military"?

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#532

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Probably not with a phone, but "affordable" full-frame MILC/DSLR cameras with 100-400mm or 600mm lenses exist and people have them. Much better chances.

This article links photos from a Sony full frame camera and 600mm lens but it clearly struggles: https://eu.app.com/picture-gallery/news/2024/12/10/drones-in...

Odd, one of those pictures clearly show either a regular RC helicopter, or a full-scale helicopter. You can see the boom and tail light clearly. And no sound associated with it? There are designs for "silent" blades. I mean theyre not silent, bud at least less noisy.

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Why do the theories not fit? And where's the link to the FBI statement? I believe they said " include rotary and fixed-wing" not exclusively, but this is based on reports received. They haven't actually captured one. included sightings of both fixed-wing and rotary drones, Robert Wheeler, the assistant director of the FBI’s Critical Incident Response Group, said during a Homeland Security subcommittee hearing on secu…

No point quoting articles, just watch him say it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTotPeiMjlc&t=6767s Up to you how you want to interpret his exact words.

Yeah there's a point quoting, people here don't always watch videos, but thanks for the link.

Article gets the quote slightly wrong, but semantically it's right: some are described as being slightly larger than um um than a commercial uh available drone um fixed Wing as well as rotary

Technically you could say the rotary/fixed-wing is only invoked to describe the class of drones compared to which these reports are larger, not that the reports "include" ("some are described") fixed wing and rotary.

I'm OK with either the weaker (less UFO) or stronger (more UFO) interpretations. How about you?

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#534
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And those other 4 out of 10 are very clearly not commercial airlines. I live in NJ was very skeptical of this at first, but after seeing the same patterns 5 nights in a row for aircrafts not going towards Newark, I really have a hard time believing it is simply airlines.

I believe the other 3 pictures are this helicopter: https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ab19fa&lat=39.865&lon=-... Image 8 is too blurry to make out, but it's probably also a plane.

I would agree with that! It matches the curvature of the fuselage in one point, and there is an image with faintly visible nav lights on this page:

https://www.anthelionhelicopters.com/flight-training/add-on-...

which matches the images as well, with the green light bright, so its likely flying head-on in the picture.

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#535

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> I live in NJ. I've seen these drones. They are not commercial airliners or helicopters. They are loud, fly low and slow, and make abrupt turns unlike any planes I've seen. Their lights are also very different from other aircraft. You better crank out your camera and collect any proof at all,because what you are describing bears no resemblance to the sightings mentioned in the article. There is a reason why sighting…

I live in the Pacific NW and there are a vast number of people with really good quality trail cameras who put them tied to trees all over the place for deer and elk hunting purposes. If Bigfoot was real, we absolutely would have seen one by now.

Futurama - s4e17

Sir, if I may? Why don't you just set up, like, a billion video cameras...

In the woods and see if he walks by one?

Ah. That would be very expensive...

And most people who believe in Bigfoot are broke.

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Of course the government can control the weather, what are you on about: > In the United States, cloud seeding is used to increase precipitation in areas experiencing drought, to reduce the size of hailstones that form in thunderstorms, and to reduce the amount of fog in and around airports. In the summer of 1948, the usually humid city of Alexandria, Louisiana, under Mayor Carl B. Close, seeded a cloud with dry ice…

That's not "controlling the weather" anymore than a person with a box of matches can control fire.

I literally agree with the second sentence. Humans control fire. If we can make it rain whenever we want we also control the weather. If they didn't they wouldn't need laws preventing them from overdoing it.

Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

#537

Quick summary after following this for a few days: FBI says they're rotary and fixed-wing drones, White House says they aren't foreign adversaries, Pentagon says they aren't USA military, all 3 insist that there's no indication of a real threat despite the drones being bigger and higher tech than retail drones. Politicians are PO'd that something about this doesn't add up: How can anyone know these aren't a threat wi…

> How can anyone know these aren't a threat without knowing whose they are They are - obviously - lying. This screams secrecy to me. All 3 know that these drones are not a threat. They aren't US military because they are a 3 letter agency program. They know there's nothing to worry about it, but they won't tell you any more details. Which has been the modus operandi for secret services for decades, so I'm surprised i…

I think what's so surprising is that they would run a secretive program in such a conspicuous manner, not that the secretive program exists.

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#538

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No point quoting articles, just watch him say it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTotPeiMjlc&t=6767s Up to you how you want to interpret his exact words.

Yeah there's a point quoting, people here don't always watch videos, but thanks for the link. Article gets the quote slightly wrong, but semantically it's right: some are described as being slightly larger than um um than a commercial uh available drone um fixed Wing as well as rotary Technically you could say the rotary/fixed-wing is only invoked to describe the class of drones compared to which these reports are la…

Back in my day, we called “commercial fixed-wing drones” RC model planes.

Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

#539

Quick summary after following this for a few days: FBI says they're rotary and fixed-wing drones, White House says they aren't foreign adversaries, Pentagon says they aren't USA military, all 3 insist that there's no indication of a real threat despite the drones being bigger and higher tech than retail drones. Politicians are PO'd that something about this doesn't add up: How can anyone know these aren't a threat wi…

> How can anyone know these aren't a threat without knowing whose they are They are - obviously - lying. This screams secrecy to me. All 3 know that these drones are not a threat. They aren't US military because they are a 3 letter agency program. They know there's nothing to worry about it, but they won't tell you any more details. Which has been the modus operandi for secret services for decades, so I'm surprised i…

a shining example of a functioning democracy.

Re: Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

#540

Quick summary after following this for a few days: FBI says they're rotary and fixed-wing drones, White House says they aren't foreign adversaries, Pentagon says they aren't USA military, all 3 insist that there's no indication of a real threat despite the drones being bigger and higher tech than retail drones. Politicians are PO'd that something about this doesn't add up: How can anyone know these aren't a threat wi…

Perhaps Dr. Evil has shown up, requested 1 million dollars, or otherwise his drones will attack innocent civilians?
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