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Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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The military isn’t allowed to shoot down drones in the US. There was a WSJ story last month about drones flying over Langley for 2 weeks. All the general could do is stand on the roof and watch

Yeah they can only shoot down unidentified weather balloons.

IIRC there were multiple instances of the balloons and the one they shot down was intentionally shot down in a relatively safe area.

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A lot of people here are writing this off as hysteria. I don't know if this is anything nefarious or not, but I would note that being suspicious of these things is often a good thing, not a bad thing. Even Michael Shermer, the famed skeptic, wrote a book on how suspecting conspiracy is often a valid default stance. Abstract from his book: "One reason that people believe these conspiracies, Shermer argues, is that eno…

I do find it rather hard to make sense of the antagonism here. My only guess is people feel the need to distance themselves from the "sheep" and do so by ridiculing them from their ivory tower. In some cases it's the same thing, but there's a political bent added to it ("some people" from "that side"). Sad to see what HN is slowly devolving into.

It’s probably an organized group of shills / bots trying to discredit and downplay the concerns so it doesn’t get out of hand. ;)

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Almost no chance these are not US military. The drones have been appearing very consistently, if there were the slightest concern of foreign military drones, then military jets would have been scrambled to intercept - there have been no such reports.

Military jets scrambled to intercept a bunch of random UAVs? Do you know how expensive those things are to operate?

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Hiding in plain sight is also a thing.

So is sowing mass hysteria and deepening distrust in authorities.

It sucks that we have to worry that our normally silly and harmless UFO hysteria and other fringe stuff might actually be an influence operation. (Just because tone doesn’t go well over the internet sometimes: Not disagreeing or being sarcastic, commiserating).

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#395

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> are assessed by the Pentagon yesterday to not originate in the US or any other nation To be clear, they stated that “these are not US military drones”, and that they have no evidence that they are from a foreign entity or adversary, which is very different from what I interpreted you as saying.

You interpreted me as saying?

"are assessed by the Pentagon yesterday... to not originate in the US or any other nation" = "the Pentagon claims to actively know that the drones aren't from any publicly-known line of drone models"

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I mean there were 12 drones following a Coast Guard lifeboat. Doubt the Coastguard crew mass hysteria'd themselves into thinking 12 nearby 737s were following their boat (unless they just raided some Colombian drug submarine prior to coming into port). https://apnews.com/article/fbi-drones-new-jersey-a978470fa3b... And the official government response is super odd. Police were following a drone (that is totally safe…

Helis have to get out of the vicinity of drones all the time, it's a safety thing. If a drone suddenly flies into heli rotor, what do you think happens?

Somebody died near where I live because LifeFlight aborted after a drone was spotted by the heli. Firefighters abort flights for drones too, it's really serious.

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What 'commercially available' aircraft can operate for at least 6 - 7 hours, sized up to 6 feet, not always detectable by FLIR, evade detection by helicopters, don't always use lights, have a range of at least 15 miles, are not obeying FAA line of sight regulations for night flights (all per the statewide briefing provided to NJ legislators yesterday: https://x.com/DawnFantasia_NJ/status/1866896860578717994 ) , and a…

> are assessed by the Pentagon yesterday to not originate in the US or any other nation To be clear, they stated that “these are not US military drones”, and that they have no evidence that they are from a foreign entity or adversary, which is very different from what I interpreted you as saying.

What evidence do they have though? I’m going with none and it seems odd to me they’re ok just letting the local law enforcement run point

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#398

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> are assessed by the Pentagon yesterday to not originate in the US or any other nation To be clear, they stated that “these are not US military drones”, and that they have no evidence that they are from a foreign entity or adversary, which is very different from what I interpreted you as saying.

You interpreted me as saying?

I interpreted your statement as “the Pentagon has assessed the drones and determined that they did not originate in the US or any other nation”.

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You can see these things with satellites

Or airplanes. Like the ones flying overhead all the time in N.J.

Or here:

https://felt.com/explore/us-electric-power-transmission-line...

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#400

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> are assessed by the Pentagon yesterday to not originate in the US or any other nation To be clear, they stated that “these are not US military drones”, and that they have no evidence that they are from a foreign entity or adversary, which is very different from what I interpreted you as saying.

You interpreted me as saying?

> "are assessed by the Pentagon yesterday to not originate in the US or any other nation"

This statement logically means that:

* The Pentagon assessed (determined) that X is true

* Where X is defined as "The drones do not originate in the US or any other nation"

That is different than the statement:

* The Pentagon has stated that (a) X is false, and (b) they have no evidence that Y is true.

* Where X is defined as "The drones are US military assets"

* Where Y is defined as "The drones originate from and/or are assets of a foreign nation or adversary."

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