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Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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Post by Arrath »

quantadev wrote: post #286
cuuupid wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At times like this it's helpful to use a simple, three point framework: [1] What do we know? [2] What is noise? [3] What is the boring explanation? For [1], we know there are likely _some_ drones. We know drones are a very hot topic for defense at the moment and that countries are heavily investing in this area. We know that these systems need very heavy testing for coordination, surveillance, etc. and we know that o…

> An entire ocean away. Ever heard of submarines and ships. the Congressman said he heard from a good source there was an Iranian "mothership" on the East Coast. I guess you claim he's being lied to, or making it all up?

"He made it up" certainly seems more likely than Iran, what, retrofitting one of their old Kilo class D/E subs to be a drone mothership that's just lurking off the coast?

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Post by ceejayoz »

quantadev wrote: post #286
cuuupid wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At times like this it's helpful to use a simple, three point framework: [1] What do we know? [2] What is noise? [3] What is the boring explanation? For [1], we know there are likely _some_ drones. We know drones are a very hot topic for defense at the moment and that countries are heavily investing in this area. We know that these systems need very heavy testing for coordination, surveillance, etc. and we know that o…

> An entire ocean away. Ever heard of submarines and ships. the Congressman said he heard from a good source there was an Iranian "mothership" on the East Coast. I guess you claim he's being lied to, or making it all up?

Congressional reps can be... credulous.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/republican-congressman-falls-vi...

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Post by StanislavPetrov »

quantadev wrote: post #286
cuuupid wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At times like this it's helpful to use a simple, three point framework: [1] What do we know? [2] What is noise? [3] What is the boring explanation? For [1], we know there are likely _some_ drones. We know drones are a very hot topic for defense at the moment and that countries are heavily investing in this area. We know that these systems need very heavy testing for coordination, surveillance, etc. and we know that o…

> An entire ocean away. Ever heard of submarines and ships. the Congressman said he heard from a good source there was an Iranian "mothership" on the East Coast. I guess you claim he's being lied to, or making it all up?

>I guess you claim he's being lied to, or making it all up?

Don't forget rank stupidity as a strong possibility.

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Post by pfisch »

quantadev wrote: post #286
cuuupid wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At times like this it's helpful to use a simple, three point framework: [1] What do we know? [2] What is noise? [3] What is the boring explanation? For [1], we know there are likely _some_ drones. We know drones are a very hot topic for defense at the moment and that countries are heavily investing in this area. We know that these systems need very heavy testing for coordination, surveillance, etc. and we know that o…

> An entire ocean away. Ever heard of submarines and ships. the Congressman said he heard from a good source there was an Iranian "mothership" on the East Coast. I guess you claim he's being lied to, or making it all up?

How much time did he get on fox news? How many new followers on social media?

This is the game they are playing. The attention game. Just like the kid who misbehaves so people pay attention to him. This is what social media has done to our society.

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Post by jwarden »

op00to wrote: post #239
_DeadFred_ wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean there were 12 drones following a Coast Guard lifeboat. Doubt the Coastguard crew mass hysteria'd themselves into thinking 12 nearby 737s were following their boat (unless they just raided some Colombian drug submarine prior to coming into port). https://apnews.com/article/fbi-drones-new-jersey-a978470fa3b... And the official government response is super odd. Police were following a drone (that is totally safe…

Can you site an actual reliable source, and not the mouthpiece of a political party?

GP also provided this AP article as a source. This article quotes a coast guard official directly.

https://apnews.com/article/fbi-drones-new-jersey-a978470fa3b...

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Post by StanislavPetrov »

Aeolun wrote: post #61
gradus_ad wrote: post #49

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I live in NJ. I've seen these drones. They are not commercial airliners or helicopters. They are loud, fly low and slow, and make abrupt turns unlike any planes I've seen. Their lights are also very different from other aircraft. I can see how it's tempting to chalk this up to hysteria, but they are absolutely large drones of some kind.

At least 6 out of 10 images in the linked article are clearly commercial aircraft.

As someone who lives in New York near two very busy airports, I can assure you that after seeing dozens of planes fly over my house every hour, year after year, it isn't hard to figure out what isn't a plane.

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Post by stevenhuang »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #199
kernelkhertz wrote: post #144

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That you’re delusional?

Long time member here and not a kook.

From what I understand of the situation, I will stake the claim that the Galactic federation stuff is closest to the truth of what's happening here. It's wild to suggest, I know.

It will not be possible for most members of the community who don't follow the UAP phenomenon to understand why.

But all of of the information is out there, and if this event catalizes curiosity in you, then you will do your own research and come to the conclusion that, reality might very well be this weird.

I've always found these stories as mere fascinating sci-fi what ifs, but as more of these events unfold I've got to admit there might be something to it.

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Post by cuuupid »

quantadev wrote: post #286
cuuupid wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At times like this it's helpful to use a simple, three point framework: [1] What do we know? [2] What is noise? [3] What is the boring explanation? For [1], we know there are likely _some_ drones. We know drones are a very hot topic for defense at the moment and that countries are heavily investing in this area. We know that these systems need very heavy testing for coordination, surveillance, etc. and we know that o…

> An entire ocean away. Ever heard of submarines and ships. the Congressman said he heard from a good source there was an Iranian "mothership" on the East Coast. I guess you claim he's being lied to, or making it all up?

With everything intel-coded you can quickly figure out what is actually happening by applying the three point framework:

[1] What we know: Iran does not have a strong drone program, and it is almost impossible to get a ship that close to our shores without it being blown to literal bits by our 3 navy's.

[2] Noise: Congress has almost no insight into what the DoD does outside of hearings and oversight committees; Jeff Van Drew is on none of the committees that oversee any of our drone programs or space command, nor do these meet on a frequent enough cadence for them to have weighed in intel already. He's also a gun nut pro-lifer who has voted with Russian interests in the last two votes, and I doubt he would receive many markings or special briefings from intel agencies. The Pentagon (which currently directly oversees TF Lima, is where CDAO is based out of, and collaborates closely with SPACECOM) has also very publicly shot down these claims.

[3] Boring explanation: he's making it all up.

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Post by Arrath »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #220
ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 wrote: post #218

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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yxDXqU9OQQ Isn't this just the standard politician response? I am angry, this is ridiculous, so on. It might be more useful to actually listen to the hearing.

'We don't know what these drones are, where they come from, so we followed one, then we... just stopped following it'. That's not the normal Police/Sheriff response, no. There are multiple New Jersey state government officials that attended this government hearing retelling that the Police/Sheriff said a Police helicopter did just stop following the unknown drone because 'the Police/Sheriff felt unsafe'.

To be fair helicopters are held aloft by man's engineering hubris and blatantly flaunting gravity. Taking a drone to the tail rotor may not be entirely healthy to the crew of the chopper.

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Post by jwarden »

trimethylpurine wrote: post #254
op00to wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you site an actual reliable source, and not the mouthpiece of a political party?

If there was such a news source we'd all be reading it and agreeing with one another.

But there is such a reliable source, it is right in GP’s post — the AP article with the cosst guard interview. I don’t understand these comments.

https://apnews.com/article/fbi-drones-new-jersey-a978470fa3b...

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