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Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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Reminds me of the Chinese balloon incident of 2023 [1] Unsubstantiated theory, but maybe a foreign adversary scanning ground for targets? Critical east coast transmission lines and substations in NJ possibly a target? [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Chinese_balloon_inciden...

You can see these things with satellites

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The photos I've seen posted look very obviously like commercial airliners and helicopters with their navigation lights on. You can even make out the American Airlines livery on the tail! https://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2024/12/11/d...

From what little I've seen on this, it kind of feels like the issue with Priuses acceleration out of control like 15 years ago. It was a huge scandal that lead to multiple Toyota recalls and even a lawsuit settlement and in the end, it seems like it was basically human error. One person messed up and crashed their Prius claiming the accelerator got stuck and it got picked up by the news. That story then primed other…

Some information about the Toyota cases: https://users.ece.cmu.edu/~koopman/pubs/koopman14_toyota_ua_... page 14 is especially interesting.

And more technical information: https://www.safetyresearch.net/Library/BarrSlides_FINAL_SCRU...

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I wish we as people could have meaningful conversations on the internet. To clarify some common logical issues I see spread across dozens of responses in this thread: Drones != Quadcopters Drones COULD use a housing to mimics common aircraft or helicopters. The military and FBI do not commonly monitor ALL airspace at all times beyond air-traffic radar. The government is not a hive-mind and individuals only know what…

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> I'm sure that with Trump unsealing much of the anticipated documents around Epstein, Diddy, Kennedy, UFO/UAP

I think the only cognitive dissonance is expecting Trump to unseal anything he didn't already unseal in his first term.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in NJ. I've seen these drones. They are not commercial airliners or helicopters. They are loud, fly low and slow, and make abrupt turns unlike any planes I've seen. Their lights are also very different from other aircraft. I can see how it's tempting to chalk this up to hysteria, but they are absolutely large drones of some kind.

And you recorded if of course!

If all we had to depend on was cell phone footage, I'm not sure I'd believe the moon existed.

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Of course there's the chance that something is actually going on.

But if there isn't, telling people that there's been some strange lights in the sky is a pretty good way to get people to look up at night and receive even more reports about just that.

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The idea that mystery nefarious drone operators would be sending up things with blinking red and green navigation lights on them is patently absurd. As others have pointed out in this thread, there's a lot of more mundane explanations.

Also it can depend on what people consider nefarious. For a long time I noticed drone coverage over my area regularly at night, which how they were operating over a populated area would be illegal for a civilian. Eventually I figured it out to be law enforcement drones. It's perfectly legal for there to be cop drones but people might consider them nefarious and law enforcement has been taking a boiled frog approach to drone acceptance.

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I mean there were 12 drones following a Coast Guard lifeboat. Doubt the Coastguard crew mass hysteria'd themselves into thinking 12 nearby 737s were following their boat (unless they just raided some Colombian drug submarine prior to coming into port). https://apnews.com/article/fbi-drones-new-jersey-a978470fa3b... And the official government response is super odd. Police were following a drone (that is totally safe…

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yxDXqU9OQQ

Isn't this just the standard politician response? I am angry, this is ridiculous, so on. It might be more useful to actually listen to the hearing.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least 6 out of 10 images in the linked article are clearly commercial aircraft.

And those other 4 out of 10 are very clearly not commercial airlines. I live in NJ was very skeptical of this at first, but after seeing the same patterns 5 nights in a row for aircrafts not going towards Newark, I really have a hard time believing it is simply airlines.

I believe the other 3 pictures are this helicopter: https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ab19fa&lat=39.865&lon=-...

Image 8 is too blurry to make out, but it's probably also a plane.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean there were 12 drones following a Coast Guard lifeboat. Doubt the Coastguard crew mass hysteria'd themselves into thinking 12 nearby 737s were following their boat (unless they just raided some Colombian drug submarine prior to coming into port). https://apnews.com/article/fbi-drones-new-jersey-a978470fa3b... And the official government response is super odd. Police were following a drone (that is totally safe…

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yxDXqU9OQQ Isn't this just the standard politician response? I am angry, this is ridiculous, so on. It might be more useful to actually listen to the hearing.

'We don't know what these drones are, where they come from, so we followed one, then we... just stopped following it'.

That's not the normal Police/Sheriff response, no.

There are multiple New Jersey state government officials that attended this government hearing retelling that the Police/Sheriff said a Police helicopter did just stop following the unknown drone because 'the Police/Sheriff felt unsafe'.

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