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Mysterious New Jersey drone sightings prompt call for 'state of emergency'

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trimethylpurine wrote: post #133
LeafItAlone wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Guardian is publication reporting the information. If you click the link at the top, open the website, and read the article, you will see who is quoted as making the claims.

The quotes seem to indicate that they don't care about drones. The context surrounding the quotes is all The Guardian's. He emphasized there was “no known threat to the public at this time”. Etc... Then quotes of one word end quote two words not quoted, then a few more quoted words. Or a sentence that's clearly drawn without context. Typical modern reporting. The people being quoted don't have the time to care if the…

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quantadev wrote: post #286
cuuupid wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At times like this it's helpful to use a simple, three point framework: [1] What do we know? [2] What is noise? [3] What is the boring explanation? For [1], we know there are likely _some_ drones. We know drones are a very hot topic for defense at the moment and that countries are heavily investing in this area. We know that these systems need very heavy testing for coordination, surveillance, etc. and we know that o…

> An entire ocean away. Ever heard of submarines and ships. the Congressman said he heard from a good source there was an Iranian "mothership" on the East Coast. I guess you claim he's being lied to, or making it all up?

Yes, he’s clearly making it all up.

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tacticalturtle wrote: post #249
georgeburdell wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not commenting on NJ specifically, but there have been drone sightings near sensitive military sites recently, as reported by the military

Here’s one recent example in Virginia: https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/drones-milita... A graduate student in Minnesota flew to a naval base in Virginia, used a consumer drone to photograph the area, then attempted to board a flight to China before he was caught by authorities. His defense was that he was a fan of boats and drones, and as his lawyer said: “If he was a foreign agent, he would be the wor…

But you do know about him!

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apcragg wrote: post #27
gowld wrote: post #24

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Which picture has the AA livery visible?

6 and 7. If you squint and lean on a bit of confirmation bias, photo 9 looks like a commercial airliner with the Alaska Airlines livery.

I think photos 2 and 9 are actually JetBlue. There weren't any Alaska flights in the area at the time [1], but there were two JetBlue planes flying in the area, before and after an American Airlines jet. If the images were posted in the same order they were taken, this would fit perfectly.

1: https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?replay=2024-12-09-01:33&lat=...

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cuuupid wrote: post #275
guhcampos wrote: post #65

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At times like this it's helpful to use a simple, three point framework: [1] What do we know? [2] What is noise? [3] What is the boring explanation? For [1], we know there are likely _some_ drones. We know drones are a very hot topic for defense at the moment and that countries are heavily investing in this area. We know that these systems need very heavy testing for coordination, surveillance, etc. and we know that o…

1. Local air taxi service is testing, per some random YouTube comment.

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Post by kardos »

jaco6 wrote: post #297

The concerns about it being a foreign power seem misplaced. Shouldn’t the main concern with drones be domestic terrorism? A civilian could easily buy a small fleet of drones, equip them with small IEDs or sarin gas, and fly them into otherwise secured areas with large crowds. Are there any procedures in place to prevent this?

> A civilian could easily buy a small fleet of drones, equip them with small IEDs or sarin gas, and fly them into otherwise secured areas with large crowds.

Easy? Is sarin gas freely available at big-box retailers?

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Post by block_dagger »

jklinger410 wrote: post #39
apcragg wrote: post #13

The photos I've seen posted look very obviously like commercial airliners and helicopters with their navigation lights on. You can even make out the American Airlines livery on the tail! https://www.app.com/story/news/local/new-jersey/2024/12/11/d...

There is more evidence here than just pictures from this one article. The pentagon, for example, just declared that they do not know what they are[1]. Among many other credible sources. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1hc1l58/pentagon_no_e...

The Pentagon - credible!? Ha.

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Post by ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 »

jaco6 wrote: post #297

The concerns about it being a foreign power seem misplaced. Shouldn’t the main concern with drones be domestic terrorism? A civilian could easily buy a small fleet of drones, equip them with small IEDs or sarin gas, and fly them into otherwise secured areas with large crowds. Are there any procedures in place to prevent this?

Wouldn't a novice likely die synthesizing the amount of sarin needed to kill a large group of people? Then attaching a disbursement mechanism to the drone to make it into a gaseous form, etc. Seems like a lot of high risk effort to maybe have it work.

As for IEDs, the drones used in the Ukraine war use what look to be very effective munitions, and they seem to be only effective against a single target really.

Is that really of concern?

And its not like drones that can carry things are cheap, nor is the way you are hypothesizing about them being used.

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